Laying Line in a Formerly Abandoned Mine

[lungwater]

I have acquired land rights for two large (clear watered and and beautiful) flooded Arizona mines.

ROV work comes first, and only after ROV assessment will any real work be done. Real work for the first year is removing cables, softening hazardous edges, removing sharp metal, removing old machinery/dewatering pipes.

I intend on doing this work solo (pairs). This is an open invitation for adventurous folks who are patient, willing to wait, not trespass and dedicated to preserving the history of the property.

Abandoned mines and the federal government are very touchy for good reason. They are absolutely dangerous, left unsealed they kill the foolish. When occupied and unsecured they do the same. Artificial caves kill divers.

Eventually this mine will be dewatered. I have a few years before any real mining needs to be demonstrated and even then BLM accepts scientific research as work. I don't ever expect to get this land converted unless I fix my karmic balance. Who knows.

Since this post is filled with controversy already, please don't say the obvious. We all know the risks. This is my land and I only want to share this small slice of cool desert water with serious individuals.

If this turns into arguments, I'm closing the thread.

[kylejones982]

PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN ! seriously would love to see some video or something

[lungwater]

PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN ! seriously would love to see some video or something

Can do, when I return from Tucson I will upload a little bit. For obvious reasons (recognizable to locals), I have to obscure the entrance and danger warning sign with the grid coordinates.

[JohnnyC]

I'm local and depending on travel plans, should have most of May off if you'd like some support. I've got a lot of familial history from Tombstone on south to the border. I'd be interested in what you find out.

I'm headed to Florida with my rebreather for a bit before work, then may or may not be back end of the month.

[Diverlee]

Sounds like a once in a life time opportunity!


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[Germie]

Sounds nice. Curious on the pics. We have some divable mines in Europe too. Dove mines in Germany, Belgium, France, Slowakia.All have their own history.

[lungwater]

Sounds nice. Curious on the pics. We have some divable mines in Europe too. Dove mines in Germany, Belgium, France, Slowakia.All have their own history.

Compared to many of the popular sites, most of the mines in my region are quite claustrophobic. Many tunnels just wide enough to run tracks and a hopper, just as many only shoulder width. Raises up and down between drifts are equally small.

They can be very rewarding and terribly treacherous at the same time. Initially exploring them and avoiding nests of cable, metal rods and machinery can be more than hair raising. Sometimes, collapsed shoring and bubbles create the perfect scenario to dissolve the ceiling and the site is too risky for me. Most sites are too risky for me. I like this one so far.

[WEPIV]

I'll be thinking of this as I drive across country on I-10 this Wednesday. Years ago I talked with the W'berg mine/museum owners north of Phoenix about this possibility. Too much liability they said.
When my family lived in LA county for a couple years in the late 70s, my brother and I explored a couple of mines in the San Gabriel Mountains, with one multi-tiered with old wooden ladders. I went back to find them in the 90s and they were blocked off with steel doors, etc.
I've always loved the history of the old West and mines are right in there with that.

[lungwater]

I'll be thinking of this as I drive across country on I-10 this Wednesday. Years ago I talked with the W'berg mine/museum owners north of Phoenix about this possibility. Too much liability they said.
When my family lived in LA county for a couple years in the late 70s, my brother and I explored a couple of mines in the San Gabriel Mountains, with one multi-tiered with old wooden ladders. I went back to find them in the 90s and they were blocked off with steel doors, etc.
I've always loved the history of the old West and mines are right in there with that.

A lot of the more dangerous ones now are filled with foam and the larger adits are caged and used as bat roosts for endangered bats.

[mikeny]

Where in Arizona is the mine?