Computer transmitters in the overhead

[inverted_bear]

read what i wrote, not what you think i wrote. It has nothing to do with being in the water. It is the convenience of being able to check them at the surface without having to pull your computer out to verify pressures. if you deem that a convenience worth putting a button gauge on, then do it. if not, it's not going to change anything in the water. If you have regs like a DS4, then you don't have to worry about it since you only have one HP port to begin with

I read what you wrote, and I pointed out that it's idiotic to add a failure point for convenience. I stand by what I said.

[tbone1004]

I read what you wrote, and I pointed out that it's idiotic to add a failure point for convenience. I stand by what I said.

you pointed out that if I didn't trust them I shouldn't use them. My point had nothing to do with trust.

aren't most of our failure points for convenience? We don't need power inflators, those are convenience. We don't need scooters, those are convenience. We don't need adjustment knobs or venturi levers, those are for convenience. Computers, swivels, elbows, etc. all things we don't need, but make life easier and better. Button gauges do it on the surface, and since you don't have any increase in o-rings, the only failure point is the bourdon tube, and those are exceedingly rare things to fail...

[inverted_bear]

If you think scooters and power inflators are simply a convenience then you've clearly never done a long distance dive or a dive at a place with no bottom. Try swimming to where some of the current exploration is going. You'd be in for a 48 hr dive. Find me a wall diver who will rely on oral inflation. I may not have the first hand experience with these huge dives, but I know you wouldn't swim to the back of Cathedral...

They might be conveniences for a simple dive in the first 2000' of ginnie or jb, but they are a necessity for bigger or deeper dives.

[III]

So I trust you don't have a power inflator or scooter for the small dives since you readily admit you don't have experience with those huge dives? By your earlier statements, you would be labeling your self as idiotic...

Or maybe we should just stop calling anyone with different thoughts idiotic. Maybe... Gasp... We have different wants and needs that don't need to be labeled with such divisive words... After all, you can dive whatever gear you like, and choose not to dive with any of the so called "strokes" who dive another configuration.

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[FW]

Let's don't make the discussion personal.

[inverted_bear]

You're right, I don't use a scooter for the first 1500' of ginnie, it makes no sense. However, a power inflator isn't a convenience item. It allows me to keep the loop in my mouth while inflating. In addition, the scooter actually adds a safety factor if properly managed. It allows you to get it out faster if the SHTF.

I still stand by the statement that adding additional failure points for surface convenience without any safety benefit is idiotic. The term "stroke" would fit.

[Jack Hammer]

I'm kinda indifferent toward them. I don't personally see the need, I also see it as a convenience item, and have little interest in them as I generally have an idea where my pressure is at. I've personally been on 4 different dives where a transmitter failed (older ones, I still don't trust them). The gauge is essentially there to verify where I'm at. Do what ever you want, just think through any consequences...

...It's all relevant to the types of dives being made.

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[Carl_f]

I've had good luck with them but carry an SPG as backup. I would be concerned with using them on backmount in overheard without some consideration to protection from hard contact with the overhead. I've seen a transmitter mounted using a short, flexible HP hose and the transmitter routed down in a more protected position.

[OFG-1]

Transmitters in caves?? Damn, now I will have to wear my tin foil had under my hood.

[Aotus]

In sidemount I just don't see the point - it's such a small convenience. I might try them if I couldn't think of some other way to get rid of my money, as it is I'm pretty good at that. In all seriousness, I would have to spend some time reading all about them, others' experience, and then dive them a long while in OW before I would rely on them in OH.