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    Sounds like a lead to me. Maybe you could talk them into making a class project out of hauling your gear up there and back.

    Here is a link to get you started though, check out the July 2003 issue.
    http://www.mindspring.com/~bszukalsk...xplorer03.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel Girl View Post
    That's Ara, to you!
    And all this time I thought it was really Dr. Cutie, sorry, just could not let that one pass by untouched, lol.

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    The spring in Santa Rosa, NM does have a cave system under it, but it was gated off by the city many years ago due to diver deaths. The last I heard, there was no plans to allow any divers access in the future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jason View Post
    The best way to sum up arizona caving is that there are no caves in Arizona to speak of....

    Squirrel girl isn't barb is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Mighty Recon View Post
    There is a cave around the Pickle Meadows California area, in the Sierra Nevada mountain range. If I remember correctly, the altitude of the cave entrance was about 7,100 ft.

    Down the road from Pickle Meadow is one of the oddest dives which I did not make. There is a spring vent at the bottom of Mono Lake at about 165'. Mono Lake has 7 times the density of sea water and the fresh water vent is at 165. You need a piano for a drop weight and be prepared to free fall when you hit the fresh water. Combine this with a 8000' elevation. There is a USPS ranger that dives there infrequently and ITS SAID he will take a buddy.

    This is not to be confused with the Clive Cussler book where someone jumped into a sinkhole in Yuma and wound up in the Sea of Cortez (a definite "N* Sh**" story.) Semper Fi. /Ken


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Hill View Post
    This is not to be confused with the Clive Cussler book where someone jumped into a sinkhole in Yuma and wound up in the Sea of Cortez (a definite "N* Sh**" story.) Semper Fi. /Ken
    What! ...Not true!! ...Next your gonna tell me the guy who jumped in the Santa Rosa New Mexico Blue Hole didn't pop out in the Great Lakes!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mpoucher View Post
    What! ...Not true!! ...Next your gonna tell me the guy who jumped in the Santa Rosa New Mexico Blue Hole didn't pop out in the Great Lakes!!
    I wonder which lake? With all that iron up there, probably impossible to to survey. /K

    Last edited by Ken Hill; 04-15-2009 at 07:35 AM.

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    Actually, I was near the S.R. Blue Hole late last year (oct/nov) and there IS talk of opening the grate to a local caver project, though I have no details nor contacts. There are also a number of other similar features in the area- all on either park or private property. Needless to say I was not in the area long enough to cultivate any connections, but you would need to be local to be involved, I am sure.

    And there is a reason that there are "no caves to speak of" in AZ- fantastic stuff...or so I'm told. There is a hilarious patch that used to go around the western grottos that said something to that effect. Haven't seen one in a while.

    As for underwater stuff in AZ- that is news to me- though it would not surprise me, considering the type of caves found in mexico to the south east under the sonoran desert.

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    There were no caves to dive in Floriday until the '50s. You actually have to go *look* to find caves anywhere.

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    Ok I do not post on the boards much, but this is a interesting thread.
    Having been born and raised in southeastern AZ. I have knowledge of solid rock mines that are flooded. As kids we used to explore the "upper" sections of these mines. The lower sections were all flooded with water. I fill pretty confident that there are a number of cave systems in the Southwest. The Arizona dry cavers keep the caves real secret. There are allot of these old mines that were dug in to sold rock following the gold vain. I am not a geologist, but I grew up with one that worked for the mines. The existence of "wet" and "live" caves in Arizona is real. I am a Cave diver and knowing I will probably end up back in the southwest some day I am looking forward to exploring some sites that I know exist. I know the information is there we just to find it.



 

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