BTW, PADI had the FIRST Cavern program. Before any Cave agencies a cave instructor developed and was approved to teach a Cavern speciality. So the cave agency Cavern programs were all based off the PADI program.
Originally Posted by oldguy
"Is this thing on?"
Find an instructor you like and trust, and go with the agency he chooses.
You will find a lot of instructors are associated with more than one agency anyway.
maarten
Thanks all
As usual, the posts get warped...sorry..i had no idea about rule 4 or 6...
Is that from the NACD or CSS rule book??
So, there is friction...chuckle.
Cheers all
PS A bit nervous...one week to go....but that's healthy eh?
May the current and flow be with you.
RE: certifying agencies
I really think that prospective diver benefit from discussions of the philosophies and practices of different certifying agencies. Based on my very limited experience (2 courses), PADI's cavern course is an end in itself, intended to teach one to make short penetrations in unexplored caverns. NACD's cavern course is intended to teach one to make short penetrations in marked caves in preparation for the Intro to Cave course.
I'd love to know what separates NACD, NSS-CDS, and GUE.
"I like to do dangerous things safely."
Don't forget NAUI (I just got slammed for that one on another forum) IANTD, TDI etc. I'm with you guys that most of the instructors have their names on many lists. I would think that's to improve student base through advertising. If I were looking right now...
I would go with my same instructor that I had and or one with a good reputation for quality teaching. I don't think bad tempers are cute and if I am paying to learn something then I want to learn from a true proffessional.
Go with an agency that will allow me to "crossover" if the personalitities or problems get too thick in one agency and I decide to switch for a while or just find an instructor I can learn something else from.
Go with one of the agencies that has been around for a while. It seems that everybody with a printing press wants to train cave divers these days...
Just my 2 cents worth. Please as an aside, I am just posting my opinion, I don't think I am the worlds expert on cave diving.
For people who worry about the "health" of our sport you need only to look at the past. We were a mentored sport at one time. We moved into public training to help prevent open water divers from dying by providing training. There was one agency and no paid instructors. Then there was a fight and another agency was formed. First part time and then full time instructors came into being. Now there are something like seven agencies that train cave divers, and dozens of people making a full time living off training cave divers. So personalities are not new, it's just the "in" thing right now to fight on the web.
What the consiquences are of all these people trying to make money off a small sport?...who knows right now. I think there will be a maximum saturation at some point. The caves can only take so much and there are only so many people who will try cave diving. What happens then will be intersting and almost worth staying around for..
Cindy Butler
"Philosophy is a purely personal matter. A genuine philosopher's credo is the outcome of a single complex personality; it cannot be transferred. No two persons, if sincere, can have the same philosophy."
--Havelock Ellis
Hey Cindy,
You didn't get "slammed" by any means, you just got corrected over wrong information that no doubt you were told that you passed along.
Best,
Chris
Sadly, I'd say 'slammed' is more appropriate term.
I fully agreeSadly, I'd say 'slammed' is more appropriate term.
DeWayne
The safest way to dive solo is to refuse to dive with an idiot. - Dave Sutton
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce (1906, Devil's Dictionary)
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