Roger Werner?

[FW]

Anyone know Roger Werner? I heard he was ill, and I sent him an email, but never heard anything back from him.

[Sludge]

That name is familiar. Was he one of Jamie's students in ~1997 from either Berry Scuba or Peachtree Dive Center?

[Kelly Jessop]

Talk to Bill Oigarten

[FW]

Talk to Bill Oigarten

OK.

[FW]

That name is familiar. Was he one of Jamie's students in ~1997 from either Berry Scuba or Peachtree Dive Center?

I don't remember who his instructor was. He was an early sidemount diver, and avid explorer. He pushed things like the cross under tunnel in Madison. He found the missing diver in Telford, 5 years after he disappeared. he invented the P-valve. He also came up with the initial concept of the line arrow.

[MORGAN]

He found the missing diver in Telford, 5 years after he disappeared.

Is that the missing diver you and Sheck were looking for when the Ghost of Telford made an appearance?

[Sludge]

...

Nope, different guy.

[FW]

Nope, different guy.

Actually, it was the same guy. He was in there 5 years before Roger found him.




Edit: FW, you misunderstood me. I meant that Roger Werner is a different guy from the Roger I trained with in the 1990s. - Slüdge

[patpicos]

i thought that Forrest (with 2 R) guy invented the line arrow

[Bill Oigarden]

Right now I am working with Roger on a Wall Sink article. Together we recovered two murdered ranchers 35 years ago from the sink. Roger recently sent me a transcript of his logbook on the dives we made at Wall. He did not say anything about being sick. When I lived in Orlando Roger lived right around the corner from me. 8-9 years ago I sat down with Roger a number of times and recorded our discussions. I turned the MP3 recordings into a UWS cave diver spotlight article. Roger is a very humble guy. Although he had prototype line arrows like we use today at the same time as Forrest did. During our discussions Roger deferred the credit to Forrest. Roger said "although maybe I had the layout first Forrest's design of the way the angles and slots are cut/drilled in were Forrest's idea. So I think it is fair to give Forrest the credit." "Without the angles Forrest came up with the line would stay on as well as it does."
Roger was not so nice to LG. Roger took most of the deep Eagles Nest survey measurements solo on air. Roger was angry LG never gave him credit. In our 40 year friendship this is the only time I EVER heard Roger be ugly.