Exploration vs. Re-Exploration........a fine line

[Jont]

So at what point can I go into a cave, pull old line, reinstall new line in the exact same place as the old and call it my own?

Seems like a fair question given some of the newly discovered yet previously explored cave in the panhandle?

See I was asked to go to Ginnie with a friend and thought why not just re-explore the gallery, re-line it, re-name it and re-claim it in the process......seems reasonable to me all things considered.

While I'm at it I could just re-name the town I live in!!!! So I guess I could call it the new old Hogtown, newly settled but previously occupied????

Wait I'm getting confused now.

[Kelly Jessop]

http://www.cavediver.net/forum/showt...ed-exploration

[OFG-1]

Just replace all of the arrows in the system with ones with your name, either real or imagined, and viola, you are the explorer. Replace all of the gold line with pink. Knot your line every 8 1/2 feet, no one will know the difference, and you can tell them that you went 100 feet for every 85 that you actually go.

[rchrds]

Jont, if the line needs to be replaced, cool. Historically, if a place is explored, but never documented, you have open rights to it. Documentation means map, by the way, not youtube video. On your map, you can rename whatever you want. Just don't be pissed when someone shows up with an older map and then accuses you of being a douche canoe. This has always been a long running battle in the dry community as well. It is just better defined because more people map than do in our little underwater community. My recommendation is this: Do whatever line maintenance needs to be done, make a map, if there isn't already one, and then call yourself the cartographer. In your own mind, you know you didn't explore anything, because you followed the line. If you really want to explore, get out on your own and do it. There are plenty more caves. You just might have to drive a little more.

[jlillest]

I'm naming my next find the "douche canoe".

What's with all this debate over previously enjoyed passage? I just drove to a spring today on my lunchbreak. It's got significant flow for a Virginia spring and it's never been touched.

-Jon

[rchrds]

Jon. Quit teasing. I am very close to you now.

[jlillest]

Jason,

Wanna go see the douch canoe?

No really, we should plan a trip to Central VA this winter. There's some big springs there you could knock out.

-Jon

[rchrds]

I'm in. January. I will be back from Mexico then.

[Squirrel Girl]

Douche canoe. That's one I'll remember. If the canoe fits....

I might be free in January!

[MichaelAngelo]

So does a Douche canoe a canoe that expands to 10Xs it size when put into the water)