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[twaldo]

Does NAUI Cave 1 allow restrictions? Since this is intro + are restrictions which are outside the level of intro be allowed?

there is a limit of the type of restriction, I THINK Jug is ok, but we were not ready to even find out.... Sandy said restriction with an angled approach and we said, "it can wait".
the verbage is something like minor is ok, major is not...do not remember definition of major but will know it when i see it

[ScubaStingRay]

Madison is my favorite. I gather the flow is pretty high now, but that cave is gorgeous. Be sure to check it out.

[rddvet]

there is a limit of the type of restriction, I THINK Jug is ok, but we were not ready to even find out.... Sandy said restriction with an angled approach and we said, "it can wait".
the verbage is something like minor is ok, major is not...do not remember definition of major but will know it when i see it

I don't think jug would be allowed on cave 1. It's obviously a judgment call but I believe that 99% of good naui cave 1 instructors would tell their students to wait till they're full cave.

[Kelly Jessop]

I don't think jug would be allowed on cave 1. It's obviously a judgment call but I believe that 99% of good naui cave 1 instructors would tell their students to wait till they're full cave.

I think even the park regards this as a full cave dive due to a 30 ft bedding plane and a semi-major restriction

[MarkR]

Diving is expensive. A fact you will need to accept at some point

Of course diving is more expensive than most hobbies. But I see people here buying used gear, and not everybody is ready to pony up for a CCR, right? So smart people figure out where to econonomize. There seems to be an attitude thats been around for years, that its just a rich man's sport, and you should not even blink at the cost of new gear or entry fees. I remember trying to decide on buying a new primary light and a new computer (early 90s). Shop operator was not helpful. His response was very similar.. "Its not a cheap sport... You should buy both".

Just a thought, but if only rich people went cave diving, then where would the sport be today? Somehow I bet many diving pioneers had to compramise and economize to some degree.

there is a limit of the type of restriction, I THINK Jug is ok, but we were not ready to even find out.... Sandy said restriction with an angled approach and we said, "it can wait".
the verbage is something like minor is ok, major is not...do not remember definition of major but will know it when i see it

Its been a while, but I thought NACD defined a minor restriction as: Single file only, and a major restriction as: requiring gear removal. Now that so many people are in sidemount, it seems that this definition is pretty outdated.

[JahJahwarrior]

Well for sure don't ask because they'll probably decide it's only for Abe Davis holders who've faxed in their forms and gotten permission but for some odd reason they'll allow dpv's and require stage bottles.


If I thought the dive wasn't safe for a cave 1 diver under the wings of an experienced diver then I would not have suggested it. I do think full cave should teach a little more about dealing with major restrictions so people are more prepared for Jug.

[nakatomi]

Its been a while, but I thought NACD defined a minor restriction as: Single file only, and a major restriction as: requiring gear removal. Now that so many people are in sidemount, it seems that this definition is pretty outdated.

I believe a major restriction requires either gear removal or gear/body manipulation.

So the bedding plane may still be a minor restriction in sidemount, while the diamond sands restriction can be considered a major restriction.

[curtschu]

I LOVE isopods, don't know about a face but will likely never see it no imagination on my part.

Am I completely wrong?? It's been a while but when you go in at OG you can miss it.

[jeandiver]

See you at Megadive then.

Beano

[Kelly Jessop]

Now that so many people are in sidemount, it seems that this definition is pretty outdated.

The definition still applies I would say. Most people use sidemount as a configuration,but still use the back mount things like long hose, short hose etc,but they have the tanks on their side versus their back. The principles of sidemounting like weighting for gear removal, negotiating restrictions, air sharing through restrictions, communication in siltouts in sidemount cave etc are things you'd learn with sidemount style of cave diving (versus a configuration)