Will this work?

[cmint]

OK, I posted this on facebook too, wondering what you think as I won't get a chance to try this till this weekend.

Seems logical, but then the guy is in a dry suit with aluminums...

Do you think it will work with a 3 mil wetsuit and faber 85's or 95's in a cave situation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNV2Iz4ydgI

[Aotus]

man, i gotta get a house with a nice pool. I'd be practicing all kinds of tricks too.

Looks pretty good to me. Glad I have my drysuit though.

[PfcAJ]

I think its baloney, personally.

Its one thing when the bottom is 3ft below you. Its completely different if the bottom is not (the case in quite a few caves), is very silty (again caves) or if you're in the ocean and the bottom REAL far away.

IMO if you can't move your flippers and swim against full tanks you need a drysuit.

[Omisson]

I think its baloney, personally.

Its one thing when the bottom is 3ft below you. Its completely different if the bottom is not (the case in quite a few caves), is very silty (again caves) or if you're in the ocean and the bottom REAL far away.

IMO if you can't move your flippers and swim against full tanks you need a drysuit.

Where to begin?

Depending on the smb there are different volumes and therefore different lift capacities. If it's 20pounds - two steel 85s or 95s aren't lofting. If it's 35 or 50 pounds of lift they are.

It's irrelevant IN A FAILURE what the bottom composition is- in that you are screwed absent being in a dry suit in a cave with silt - BUT you still need buoyancy to get out of the situation so the lift bag is an option.

I'm able to dive semidry in the Florida caves under 2 hrs (most of my Cave diving) quite comfortably. But use a sms100d- so I have a redundant bladder- but if I used the sms75 having a stowed dsmb/lb is an alternative that could work.

The point is - it's a reasonable Sidemount redundant bladder for emergency use.

[floridabob]

Fairly slick in OW if you are on/near a hard area to use as a perch. Not the first time I have heard of this. Lift bag is a similar option to use for flotation but applied differently.

As for caves, why the hell would you even have a sausage with you? For the failed bladder? Nah. Drysuit is easier there.

Bob

....flippers....

[cmint]

As for caves, why the hell would you even have a sausage with you? For the failed bladder? Nah. Drysuit is easier there.

The question was, do you think this will work >>>if you are diving wet.<<<

[floridabob]

The question was, do you think this will work >>>if you are diving wet.<<<

I think I might understand now...you are actually contemplating this as an option in a cave. As in you will bring a safety sausage with you....

Don't.

You should get a drysuit or a different kit. Or just quit cave diving. I mean: if you are really talking about crawling out of a cave or bringing in a safety sausage instead of planning to respond to an emergency in the most effective/least dangerous way--then this may not be the best hobby for you.

This is a variable/response you can easily eliminate/plan. Save such a creative response for a true ohshit moment.

To directly answer your question: yes, that guy could make that work in that pool in a wetsuit.

[cmint]

I think I might understand now...you are actually contemplating this as an option in a cave. As in you will bring a safety sausage with you....

Don't.

You should get a drysuit or a different kit. Or just quit cave diving. I mean: if you are really talking about crawling out of a cave or bringing in a safety sausage instead of planning to respond to an emergency in the most effective/least dangerous way--then this may not be the best hobby for you.

This is a variable/response you can easily eliminate/plan. Save such a creative response for a true ohshit moment.

To directly answer your question: yes, that guy could make that work in that pool in a wetsuit.

Your answer makes no sense at all. You are saying that the ONLY solution is to "just buy a drysuit" .... funny, I see people diving with sms 75's and wetsuits every weekend. I passed my cave class in a wetsuit. You are saying that nobody should be in a cave without a drysuit? reallllly?

[twaldo]

Your answer makes no sense at all. You are saying that the ONLY solution is to "just buy a drysuit" .... funny, I see people diving with sms 75's and wetsuits every weekend. I passed my cave class in a wetsuit. You are saying that nobody should be in a cave without a drysuit? reallllly?

I sort of agree with you on this... again the history of cave diving included collapsed milk jugs as extra buoyancy, why not a safety sausage?

Tim

[PfcAJ]

Your answer makes no sense at all. You are saying that the ONLY solution is to "just buy a drysuit" .... funny, I see people diving with sms 75's and wetsuits every weekend. I passed my cave class in a wetsuit. You are saying that nobody should be in a cave without a drysuit? reallllly?

There's tons of stuff that goes on in cave diving that spans the spectrum from 'less than ideal' to 'that a terrible idea'.

Al80s in a wetsuit? Rock out. Steels without a drysuit? Ya might have a bad time if things don't go as planned.