Eagles Nest 12/6

[apitkin]

Upstream EN to the end of the line was 50-60 feet of viz with a few spots dropping and a few spots better.

At the end of the line, looking into the cave with the daisy chain in front of you, the lower right (deeper section) was tannic starting at 252 and was 5 feet of viz.

That is very interesting indeed. That room down to the right at the end of the upstream gold line often has clearer colder water in it. My thought has always been that it is just a room with still water in it. Was the tannic water noticeably colder?

[twaldo]

Cyber stalking is discouraged.

Diving is encouraged.

Creating favorite cave lists before 100 cave dives is...well...frankly, I'm not sure what but I am certain it is not proper etiquette.

Might. Might not. Meh.

Bob

Not that I'm planning on a dive there next week.. (maybe next decade) I've gotten conflicting reports on EN being within Cave 1 limitations.... I thought the bottom of the tube was at 90' which would make it pretty much OUT OF MY SCOPE... Is that the case or is EN something a cave 1 diver could even look at??

LR (even if I can't get far in it) is a LOT like a favorite "dry" cave I have in Arkansas... not that its all that dry, just not completely full so it will always be one I like a lot... I don't have a lot of experience with vertical caves which would translate to something like EN...

and def no cyber stalking here... maybe more like the cyber stalked....

Tim

[floridabob]

That is very interesting indeed. That room down to the right at the end of the upstream gold line often has clearer colder water in it. My thought has always been that it is just a room with still water in it. Was the tannic water noticeably colder?

I didnt check the temp on the computer but I'd guess 5 degrees colder. James can confirm my thoughts, though. As an aside: the small lead had a nice bit of flow coming out of it. Made our attempted move through disappear quickly.

As for the posting of the spread sheets, Im not aware of them being posted. Most would keep those close to the vest since the work would be more for personal use than for general dissemination.

[Draker]

That is very interesting indeed. That room down to the right at the end of the upstream gold line often has clearer colder water in it. My thought has always been that it is just a room with still water in it. Was the tannic water noticeably colder?

I was 2500' back, 250' deep and swimming through 5' vis with Beckner. Honestly, I was more focused on survival than water temp, but yes, I would say it was noticeably colder in the tannic.

[adam_Hughes]

(Never mind)

[Sly-vester]

Could be a late season turnover, much the way a lake does. Usually, after it's done it clears up nicely.

[jason]

Caves in Florida, or sections of caves in Florida, that are connected to lakes and ponds turn over (as Sly-vester mentioned). Because of minimal water movement, the primary means of water movement is density variations. In the summer, hot surface waters make the lakes less dense than the underlying cave waters and no lake water enters the cave. In the winter, cooling increases the density of the surface water and flows into the cave along bottom topography - cave water ascends along the roof the cave to the basins to replace descending surface water. Seasonal turnover happens at a number of locations, including low-flow caves in the Mill Pond, Eagle's Nest and Rose Creek Sink (just to name a few examples).

[Sludge]

Smartass comment or genuine confusion?

I don't know if the situation fits in this case, but when a user's screen name contains a diacritical mark not normally used in English, there's a good chance English is not his/her native tongue. Just sayin'.

[FW]

I don't know if the situation fits in this case, but when a user's screen name contains a diacritical mark not normally used in English, there's a good chance English is not his/her native tongue. Just sayin'.

You mean like "Slüdge"?

[Sludge]

I use that as an excuse.