Spool Rigging

[curtschu]

Just spend an extra few bucks and get jump/gap reels. It'll make your life a whole lot easier.

Here, Here! I have a spool, I use it for shooting an SMB. Dive Rite jump reels from the 90s is what I use. They are barely bigger than a spool and so much easier to use. Just not part of the cool kids kit I guess.

[curtschu]

Mike, I do what you and Oliver are saying: Stuff end of line through hole in reel and then clip to double-ender. However, I double-wrap my line around my double-ender using the bottom of the gate as my "pinching" point....if that makes sense.

So: leave a little extra line out when you poke it through the hole. Clip your double-ender to the "cheater loop" at the end. Then wrap the line around the bottom of the gate (or whatever you call the part you put your thumb on) and back up into the double-ender. It's goofy the first few times but it becomes easier as you practice it...muscle memory and all.

Russell: I've got a few Jump/Gap reels and have started to loathe them...to the point that I've given a couple away. I was using the Dive Rite sidewinder-type jump/gap reels.

Victor, send them to me!

[MichaelAngelo]

Here, Here! I have a spool, I use it for shooting an SMB. Dive Rite jump reels from the 90s is what I use. They are barely bigger than a spool and so much easier to use. Just not part of the cool kids kit I guess.

Do you use them with heavy gloves in very cold water?

Mike. You might try contacting Tamera Thomson or her Facebook group "Outlaw Cave divers" she is doing plenty of exploring in Wisconsin. Or any of the Missouri cave divers like Slim. They diving cold water in gloves so their insight would be helpful.

[Michael.guerrero]

I dive with some of the OCDA guys, so I've seen a few different versions.

I'm going to try the bungee thing rather than the line stop and other stuff. It seems the most straightforward. Thanks Cavekrazi for suggesting it.

Mike

[Aotus]

A couple things i didn't think of with the bungee method, that might be helpful to you: 1) leave the nice fat bungie end knot at the end, farthest from where the line is tied on to the bungie loop. You can grab this end knot to pull the bungie off the spool and then you're already holding the end of the whole line+bungie, so no fiddling around with everything coming off at once. 2) you could clip the double ender on the loop in the line just before when it is tied to the bungie, OR you can clip to the bungie itself on one side of the knot. This is probably easier for use with gloves. But, then you have to put a stopper knot in the bungie to keep the line from sliding around and make sure the double ender is clipped on the side of the end knot that is in the direction of the line...that is, if you pull on the line, it should pull the bungie end knot into the clip (stopping the bungie from rotating around the spool and loosing line), not away from the clip. -- alternatively, you can use the end knot only, but don't have it at the end, but right where the line is tied. Then, position the clip on and two knots (bungie end knot, then the line-to-bungie knot) in this sequence: 1) line-bungie knot, 2) bungie knot, 3)clip, 4) line wrapping away.

I hope those notes are understandable without pictures....yikes.

I may be reconsidering my method though...I use the bungie method, but seeing the Santiago video that looks like you're less likely to lose a spool. A nudge the wrong way may open the clip and lose the spool using the bungie method. Their method looks like it would cut that chance to near nil.

[Michael.guerrero]

Yup, I noticed both those attributes when I put them on. The knot in the bungee serves the purpose of the line stop that I can grab with my gloves on, and the bungee itself keeps the line from unspooling if the clip comes off. I keep my spools in my pockets, so if I pull the gate clip off the spool one will be in my hand and one will be in my pocket.

[rddvet]

You would be having a very off day if you can knock one loose with the santiago way


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[Michael.guerrero]

I just don't see being able to get line back through a hole in any quick way underwater with thick gloves on. I know he shows it in the video, but doing it above water just isn't the same thing.

But hey, maybe the bungee won't work as well as I think and I'll go to this method. The good news is several ways have been discussed on the thread.