Cavern and Intro. to Cave training - high or low flow?

It seems that people that only dive Ginnie, Little River, Manatee, etc. sometimes forget how easy it is to silt out a very low or no flow cave.

You got that right. Two friends and I, who have done most of our recent diving at Jackson Blue, swam from Peacock 1 to Waterhole last week. We all couldn't believe how sloppy our technique had become. (We all have over 400 cave dives.)

Russell

[Genesis]

Add some wreck diving to your mix. You will find out right quick if you've gotten sloppy...... better run that line too

BTW, while JB has a ripping flow, Twin and Hole do not. They're both quite easy to silt up, especially Twin in a number of places....

[jammer]

Most instructors take you into both inviroments I know mine does. But anyway I do not agree with the whole thing if you can deal with flow then low flow or no flow is easy. If you want to test your skills and do a dive do the dark water tunnel in Peacock or do P3 then tell me that low flow is not a problem. I feel that the divers get used to the high flow and tend to get a little lazy with their skills 'cause they are used to the high flow then they dive a low flow and man the cave goes to crap real quick.

[Mart]

Most instructors take you into both inviroments I know mine does. But anyway I do not agree with the whole thing if you can deal with flow then low flow or no flow is easy. If you want to test your skills and do a dive do the dark water tunnel in Peacock or do P3 then tell me that low flow is not a problem. I feel that the divers get used to the high flow and tend to get a little lazy with their skills 'cause they are used to the high flow then they dive a low flow and man the cave goes to crap real quick.

I am just back from my first dives in high flow caves (Florida). Most diving before was in Mexico, hardly any flow but very fragile caves. I found a lot of my skills disappeared fast, Little River was more like the wreck diving over here. So I agree, you need no flow caves to really fine tune a lot of your skills. Add flow, and you will manage.

[Rich]

If you want to test your skills and do a dive do the dark water tunnel in Peacock or do P3 then tell me that low flow is not a problem. .

LOL Kevin, low flow is not a problem, crappy technique is...

Safe diving,

Rich

[jammer]

Well yes I agree Rich my ole friend how you been? Yes poor technique is the true problem. But I did a dive in both and wow you better have your stuff together if you want to dive in clear water but if you don't oh well it is good for on the line no vis dive education LOL.

[Rich]

Well yes I agree Rich my ole friend how you been? Yes poor technique is the true problem. But I did a dive in both and wow you better have your stuff together if you want to dive in clear water but if you don't oh well it is good for on the line no vis dive education LOL.

Things are great, Cheryl and I finally got moved into the new place

Safe diving,

Rich

P.S. What really helps in the Dark Water tunnel is doing the duckunders sideways rather than head on....

[jammer]

Well yes I agree Rich my ole friend how you been? Yes poor technique is the true problem. But I did a dive in both and wow you better have your stuff together if you want to dive in clear water but if you don't oh well it is good for on the line no vis dive education LOL.

Things are great, Cheryl and I finally got moved into the new place

Safe diving,

Rich

P.S. What really helps in the Dark Water tunnel is doing the duckunders sideways rather than head on....

Great guy i am glad you guys are doing great and by the way congrats on the Instructor course.

[CaptainSpeleo]

I prefer to dive the low flow/no flow systems for 2 reasons:

1. You don't get tired nearly as quickly because you're not fighting the outflow, which equates to more enjoyable dives and longer penetrations.

2. They encourage you to maintain good buoyancy control and finning techniques so you don't stir up clouds of silt in front of the diver(s) behind you.

[Webmaster]

I've noticed a couple of times when I go to FL that it takes a dive to adjust to being in flow. Most of the caves here have little to no noticable flow when they are divable.

We get much more direct flow from the surface so levels and vis change very quickly with rainfall.