Cave Diving Police

[Superlyte27]

Their instructor was Steve Gerrard. That was the first question I asked. Oh...and I used to teach Anger Management. I guess the saying really is true, "those who can't do, teach."

[Superlyte27]

No meds, just a refusal to tolerate be as I see it. If you don't like it, avoid me.

That's should have said "tolerate bs"
Stupid AutoCorrect

[mbaker]

I got that Peter and no harm intended. I am glad something was said. I hear Ginnie Springs is a great place for a good old down home shootout but think that should be left for the drunken river rats and not brought on by the cave divers.

[Superlyte27]

I got that Peter and no harm intended. I am glad something was said. I hear Ginnie Springs is a great place for a good old down home shootout but think that should be left for the drunken river rats and not brought on by the cave divers.

The heated exchange wasn't really heated at all. But I understand that doesn't make for a good story. It wasn't a shouting match. No one was screaming or threatening anyone. The whole thing lasted less time than it takes to eject someone from your car. I doubt either party was terribly upset. I certainly was not. I was relieved that they made it back alive. I was aggravated that they would excuse away every point I brought up. And as the conversation went on, that aggravation grew. But hammers and guns were not necessary.

[Kelly Jessop]

The heated exchange wasn't really heated at all. But I understand that doesn't make for a good story. It wasn't a shouting match. No one was screaming or threatening anyone. The whole thing lasted less time than it takes to eject someone from your car. I doubt either party was terribly upset. I certainly was not. I was relieved that they made it back alive. I was aggravated that they would excuse away every point I brought up. And as the conversation went on, that aggravation grew. But hammers and guns were not necessary.

The fill station at Ginnie used to have the bad technique fly swatter,wonder what a local shop might have

[JE]

Their instructor was Steve Gerrard. That was the first question I asked. Oh...and I used to teach Anger Management. I guess the saying really is true, "those who can't do, teach."

I met & knew Steve Gerrard for awhile & I cannot believe that he would certify someone without that person/persons qualifing ! I have a lot of respect for Steve. My own CI was a college level instructor & teacher who failed me on my first Cave class. Thankfully for that as i had to improve my own skills to go back & re-take his class to pass it. {Lloyd Baily} That is the mark of a good instructor....to flunk a student not up to the certs ! I still could use a refresher from a qualifed instructor & would like to take today's Full &/or Side mount classes. Education & Training are the key to being a safe cave diver. It is the right thing to do to address a diver who is not doing what should be natural & safe.
You are a better person for offering to help him.
Thank you for your posts.
Jack e.

[JohnAd]

I met & knew Steve Gerrard for awhile & I cannot believe that he would certify someone without that person/persons qualifing !

The OP said he has been full cave for over 20 years. A lot can happen in 20 years. Unless you are diving often, skills can deteriorate. Unless you are diving conscientiously, skills can deteriorate. For example, I live far from caves, and it is a real effort for me to get to them. When I do make such trips, I am usually being led in places I have never been before, and the person leading me usually lays the line. I recently realized I had not done a lot of line laying for quite some time. I therefore traveled to a dive site with a rocky floor so I could get some practice. I think I will do that again soon.

I am an OW instructor, and I sometimes teach refresher courses. I recently worked with two NAUI divers who had not been diving for 11 years. They frankly looked like they had never dived before in their lives, and it took a lot of effort to make them look like divers. I don't blame their initial NAUI instruction for that. I blame 11 years of inactivity.

[shellmoundal]

The question is not "How long have you been certified?" but "How many dives have you made in the past 12 months?"

[Bakrt]

It is always interesting that people tell on themselves when they display bad behavior. Ill admit that I hit the silt. As for the pistol grip light that was a GoPro with a small brand new video light on a tray. I was working with my new GoPro and lost buoyancy sorry. If I messed up your dive sorry. It seems that you feel you need to act like a Bully. I was a little rusty with backmount I usually side mount. I did notice that the Forum Moderator had to edit your response due to profanity. Men admit when they are wrong and take responsibility for messing up. I will work on my skills. Stay safe and I will try to do the same.

[nakatomi]

I did notice that the Forum Moderator had to edit your response due to profanity. Men admit when they are wrong and take responsibility for messing up. I will work on my skills. Stay safe and I will try to do the same.

I put the "S" back into the "BS", because Peter's autocorrect turned it into "BE". So strictly speaking, I restored the original content.
Personally, I wouldn't really call "BS" profanity, but that's just my opinion. I'm not a native speaker, so I wouldn't know.

Glad to hear that you will be working on your skills. If you need a buddy to help you with any of that, please drop me a PN.