Jackson Blue Conditions?

[Kelly Jessop]

This thing you speak of I have never heard of it nor have I ever seen it, but larger vessals have the right of way over smaller ones. And if to vessals are of the same size the slower and less manuverable one has the right of way. A larger vessal has even more of a right of way when in areas that restrict it's ability to manuver.

You are probably right,although I thought vessels not under power,like a canoe/kayak, had some right of way. Either way, I found the operator on one particular weekend I was there didn't really seem to care,and it was obviously my obligation to avoid collision,even if he changed course left and right in the course of several seconds. Just take caution when they are present,they have a job to do,and them mean to do it.

[Sludge]

You are probably right

All bets are off in Lower Alabama.

[next gen]

You are probably right,although I thought vessels not under power,like a canoe/kayak, had some right of way. Either way, I found the operator on one particular weekend I was there didn't really seem to care,and it was obviously my obligation to avoid collision,even if he changed course left and right in the course of several seconds. Just take caution when they are present,they have a job to do,and them mean to do it.

According to the coast guard the ability to manuver and speed are the same thing. If you were in a 10ft dinghy on plane you have the right of way over no one, unless your engine fails. Then you are required to tilt it back to indicate that it's broke. The law is a little odd concerning sailboats such as if a sailboat has it's headsail and mainsail up but it's engine is running it's as my dad would say, "a overweight, underpowered motorboat with a air draft and water draft problem." It gets real interesting when the sailboat is undersail only, it then has the right of way everywere execpt in a shipping channel where there is a freighter, then the freighter has the right of way. When not dealing with sailboats I have found that whoever is more capable of getting out of the other's way does not have the right of way along with size works.

Just an update on conditions in Jackson Blue. Viz was 40 to 50ft, flow hasn't changed, but I let Edd know that the 500ft line arrow is gone. Also, for any of you that enjoy the binnie tunnel the flow in there is very strong.

[bamafan]

I have found out that a nuclear sub has the right of way no matter what. The Coast Guard will order you out of the channel and run up on the bank then hold you with a machine gun pointed at you. Definitely was not a fun time. As far as the guys cutting hydrilla is it really worth getting run over to just prove you are right? Sort of like crossing the street. I don't just walk across the street when the signal is given. You might have the right of way but I think I will be the loser when some car runs me over.

[next gen]

Of course there is common sense, and it should be used everywhere. I didn't know about submarines concerning right of way. Where did you see a submarine?

[bamafan]

Of course there is common sense, and it should be used everywhere. I didn't know about submarines concerning right of way. Where did you see a submarine?

I was working up in Stamford, Ct. at the time and we were leaving out of New London, Ct. on a 50' plus Hatteras to go dive the Uboat up there off Block Island. The Electric Boat Company has a plant there and the Coast Guard was escorting a sub in. The first boat told us to pull over and we did as instructed. The next Coast Guard vessel came up to us and kept ordering us closer to the shore. The poor captain about had the boat beached but they didn't seem to think we were far enough away. There was no where to go and we were literally feet from the rocks. The Coast Guard kept telling us to stay away and there was nowhere to go. They got within 50 yards or so of us and kept a machine gun that was mounted on the bow pointed directly at us. The channel is not the widest there but when you are against the bank there is no where else to go. We were probably within 100 yards or so of the sub as it went by. Other than knowing ahead of time that a sub was coming and adjusting our time accordingly I honestly don't know what else the captain could have done. Definitely someone on a power trip.

[sskasser]

US SHIP: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.

CANADIAN REPLY: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.

US SHIP: This is the Captain of the US Navy Ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.

CANADIAN REPLY: No, I say again, divert YOUR course!

US SHIP: THIS IS THE USS MISSOURI. WE ARE A LARGE BATTLESHIP OF THE US NAVY. DIVERT YOUR COURSE NOW OR WE WILL TAKE APPROPRIATE AND DRASTIC MEASURES!!!!

CANADIAN REPLY: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

[victorzamora]

Shirley.....that sounds oddly familiar:

[Benthic]

The USS Montana commercial reminded me of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MUsVcYhERY

Brian

[sskasser]