Cow Springs

[huxley]

Yes, min. Requirements are cavern, sk intro, apprentice and full are fine. Full is required for upstreams.
If instructor is with the my understanding is they could dive a level above their certification.
I did not watch the movies all the way but noticed the single stage yoke which is a bad choice. If they are intro the single tank is what a lot of agencies want you to be, most allow doubles but rather teach singles. Some require doubles which I think is wise and should be required or encouraged by all agencies.
Anyhow, they decided to violate a rule, question would be if 3 people signed in or 2. If they decide to dive with equipment not sufficient enough its bad but don't think there is a lot to do other than reminding them. If they decided to take someone else with them its a different story.
It sounds like they are open to communication, thanks to tony, he reached out and offered mentorship and they did.not blow him off.
Sounds like something got accobmlished, let's see it from that perspective and hopefully they will reach out. If they do and tony does not have time I think someone else will be able to take his place and help out.
Thanks!

[Maureen]

I think that what is missing in this discussion does not really need to be directed at these particular divers but to the training process as a whole. Why are instructors accepting divers into their cave programs who are lacking the skills that they should have to be good open water divers. This is all part of the too far too fast syndrome that is getting people in trouble. What is wrong with perfecting their skills at one level before moving ahead? If the instructors are afraid to lose the business why not offer to teach really great basic skills and then bring them forward into the sport?

[patpicos]

I applaud Tony's attitude and offer mentoring. This the type of outreach is what we need more. I'd love seeing them turn out as fine cave divers, realize they are in over their end and not pursue...rather than becoming a statistic


Kudos

[Greenwood_60]

This tool comes in handy from time to time:

http://keepvid.com/

Not sure it's useful here, but it's worth knowing about.

[MORGAN]

We were in Cow today and went downstream to blow off some deco. I don't know if it's been reported yet or not but there is some major graffiti carved into the bigger rocks near the cavern zone. They are deep and look like they were made with a chisel or screwdriver and whomever did it came there with the intention to do exactly that. It was sad.

I think this deserves its own thread, so that it doesn't get lost in this one. I hope that every effort is being made to identify the perpetrator(s) and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.

Mike

[tflaris]

We were in Cow today and went downstream to blow off some deco. I don't know if it's been reported yet or not but there is some major graffiti carved into the bigger rocks near the cavern zone. They are deep and look like they were made with a chisel or screwdriver and whomever did it came there with the intention to do exactly that. It was sad.

Tracy
Michael Angelo was kind enough to donate his time and expertise and help remove/repair the graffiti.

If you see him out and about please thank him.

Together we can do great things.

Tony Flaris
NSS-CDS
Vice Chairman


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[TracyN]

Thank you Michael Angelo! You're a great man!

[MORGAN]

Thanks MA!

Mike

[gasdiver]

MA, I'm curious how you did it? Air powered disk grinder?

[MichaelAngelo]

MA, I'm curious how you did it? Air powered disk grinder?

Basic hand sculpting tools and shapers. 35 years of being an sculptor is really what did it. I would like to advise everyone looking at the repair to look but not touch. It's white now but will patina to sienna to blend. Touching retards that natural process.
MA