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    Special thanks to Rick and Eric from Manta Industries/ Highseas Millwork for volunteering to repair the ski pull rope in Cow Springs at 6 locations.



    The picture above is a section that was replaced.

    The pull rope sheath's had been damaged in multiple locations and the core was beginning to fray.

    To help prevent this from happening in the future they installed solid pieces of garden hose slid over the new sections of 12.5 mm PMI rope. In addition knots were installed on each side of the garden hose to help prevent the garden hose from sliding and the rope becoming frayed again.

    Thanks to Cathy at Dive Outpost for letting us cut up a perfectly good garden hose.

    The NSS-CDS is lucky to have such great volunteers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tflaris View Post
    The pull rope sheath's had been damaged in multiple locations and the core was beginning to fray.

    To help prevent this from happening in the future they installed solid pieces of garden hose slid over the new sections of 12.5 mm PMI rope. In addition knots were installed on each side of the garden hose to help prevent the garden hose from sliding and the rope becoming frayed again.
    I considered doing that when I originally installed the PMI rope, but trying to slide sections of un-slit hose over several hundred feet of rope was out of the question. I am willing to bet the way Rick and Eric did it will last a lot longer now.

    Thanks guys!

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    I knew there was a good reason for the cave diving community to tolerate Rick and Eric for all this time.

    Thanks guys!


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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    I considered doing that when I originally installed the PMI rope, but trying to slide sections of un-slit hose over several hundred feet of rope was out of the question. I am willing to bet the way Rick and Eric did it will last a lot longer now.
    Got a friend in the fire dept? **

    Hang a 50' garden hose off a ladder truck. Tie a 1/4" bolt to the end of cave line, and drop it thru the hose. Then use the cave line threaded thru the garden hose to pull the PMI rope thru the garden hose.

    Would not try threading 12.5mm rope thru a 1/2" ID garden hose, but 3/4" garden hose should be easy.

    **: would also work on the side of a 5 story building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschaut View Post
    Got a friend in the fire dept? **

    Hang a 50' garden hose off a ladder truck. Tie a 1/4" bolt to the end of cave line, and drop it thru the hose. Then use the cave line threaded thru the garden hose to pull the PMI rope thru the garden hose.

    Would not try threading 12.5mm rope thru a 1/2" ID garden hose, but 3/4" garden hose should be easy.

    **: would also work on the side of a 5 story building.
    It is easy to get the hose on the rope, but you only need hose segments a few feet long, unevenly spaced over several hundred feet of rope. The original PMI rope was a continuous piece from the entrance to the first drop off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    It is easy to get the hose on the rope, but you only need hose segments a few feet long, unevenly spaced over several hundred feet of rope. The original PMI rope was a continuous piece from the entrance to the first drop off.
    Sorry, I'm still not seeing the difficulty?

    You need to slide several (dozen) short hoses thru a (300'?) rope, then secure each hose at a specific location along the length of the rope with stop knots. What am I missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschaut View Post
    ...What am I missing?
    The fact that it is underwater, and you don't have the luxury of time to slide all that stuff around.

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    I think you guys are on the same page, you're both talking about sliding hose on a rope above ground. After the hose is on the rope, install the rope, just like it looks was done this time.

    If gschaut wasn't talking about doing it above water, I gotta say he's a brave man for trying to get a ladder truck into Cow.

    So, why does everyone refer to this rope as a "ski rope"?

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    The original rope was a ski rope I believe. Lamar told the story at the social sunday

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    Woody Jasper called it a poor man's scooter.

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