Telford?

[Greenwood_60]

Anyone checked on Telford in the last week or so?

[aquadog196]

I did a 'boat by' about a week ago and walked around the spring . The water was green and clear and looked diveable. The run was flowing pretty good with 2-3' or more over all rocks. There was a 'No Tresspassing' sign close to the run and near river that I don't remember being there.

[FW]

...There was a 'No Tresspassing' sign close to the run and near river that I don't remember being there.

I suspect that is for the locals that tend to walk along the fence line, and then go onto the property. If you stay in the run, you are legal.

[aquadog196]

I frequently hear the term "High Water Mark" used as an excuse for walking along side the spring run...and staying under the high water mark. Anything to this term or just wishful thinking?

[Captain Bil]

I don't think it's wise to split hairs like this. Just stay in the run and there's no question.

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[BUNIT]

Ive heard something like that where if you stay under mean high water on the shore then you are still legal, but I'd have to read the law to be sure.

[Superlyte27]

Please stay off the land. Efforts are being made to get this opened to us. Those people who are making the efforts really don't want to have to defend or apologize for the actions of people walking on the land.

[aquadog196]

REACT next weekend with boat rides to Telford....

[Kelly Jessop]

When Telford was closed at that time I was the chair of the CDS. I spent a lot of time tracking down the owners and negotiating access. They appreciated the cave divers because they helped keep the property clean, but the biggest issue was liability related to anybody accessing the property, which I think the main issue was a local who broke their back on the property and sued. I suggested things like having a keyed gate where we would sign in,to even leasing the property like a hunting group would do. Where they were very nice and pleasant to deal with, none of those options were something they would consider. One thing that did come up was as long as we stayed in the spring run (feet wet),there was nothing they would do, and I felt that was their one demonstration of appreciation for what we have done.

Realize we can discuss high water mark, navigable water ways etc etc,but the bottom line is if a deputy charges you with trespassing, and then potentially you go to jail with the judge determining the other intangibles.

[a64pilot]

As a prior owner of beach property I am absolutely sure it's high tide line, For instance the motels that set up there chairs along the beach and try to run off the general public are doing so illegally, up to the mean high tide line I think it's called is public property, no private person can own it, and the mean high tide line is way up the beach even during normal high tide. Pretty sure this means nothing at all for fresh water streams, almost certain the property owner owns the land, regardless of how high the water is or isn't.
Being a Redneck myself, I can tell you that if I catch you on my property and you act very nice and apologetic, I'll almost certainly let you come and go, but start trying to sound like a New York Lawyer and I'll call my buddy the Sheriff and he will take you to jail and you can be Bubba's girlfriend for the night.
Having said that, I'll have a boat that anyone is welcome to use at REACT, no need to walk, question is I assume the boat can't be beached, has to either be driven back and forth or anchored in the water? I've never dove Telford myself, last year I was told the vis was terrible so I didn't even try.