Faber Lp85s $450obo

[corvettejoe]

Just totally throwing this out there... and I think its a nicely overlooked selling point!

If this holds 80ishCF and is lighter than an AL80... wouldn't these make great stage tanks, since most people carry AL80's with them for that purpose? Imagine lightening the load!

[Superlyte27]

I can buy a lot of used AL80's for what these cost.

[Sly-vester]

If they are filled to 3000psi(not recommended) they hold 100 cubic feet of air. That are great for open water divers with a bad back l.

[tursiops]

If they are filled to 3000psi(not recommended) they hold 100 cubic feet of air. That are great for open water divers with a bad back l.

You've said this several times. Just what is the weight of these things in and out of the water? Since they float when full, some extra lead is going to be needed over what would be needed with an AL80, so I'm curious how much benefit they actually give.

[Sly-vester]

FX100LF

http://bluesteelllc.com/cylinder-specifications.html

I was referring to weight out of the water, they are lighter then an alm 80.

The new spec sheet doesnt list the empty/full weight anymore, since they aren't making them anymore.

[tursiops]

Hmm, poking around on the web from some old Faber info I find 25 pounds as the empty weight in air. Compared to maybe 32 for an AL80. Now it would be nice to know full weight in water.....

[Sly-vester]

Hmm, poking around on the web from some old Faber info I find 25 pounds as the empty weight in air. Compared to maybe 32 for an AL80. Now it would be nice to know full weight in water.....

I think they would float like a cork.

[tursiops]

Let's see. They are supposedly the same size as the FX100, which is about 8.5 pounds negative, full. But it weighs 10 pounds less than the FX100. So I'm guessing it is about 1.5 pounds buoyant when full...so about 7 pounds positive when "empty," as compared to an AL80 which is about 1.5 pounds buoyant when empty. Interesting....the Faber is about as buoyant when full as the AL80 is when empty! So the OW diver will need to carry about 6 pounds more lead with the Faber than he/she does with the AL80....but the tank is 7 pounds lighter than an AL80 out of the water...not much gain, it seems.

[a64pilot]

not much gain, it seems.

It's a displacement thing, that is of course how much water the vessel displaces. Bottom line, your going to carry the weight either in the tank or in lead on your body.
My Wife's tanks are the E series steel 80's, a little more capacity than aluminum 80's but they are smaller and therefore displace much less water, so even though I think they may be lighter than an aluminum 80, you don't need as much lead with them as you do with an aluminum 80

[tursiops]

It's a displacement thing, that is of course how much water the vessel displaces. Bottom line, your going to carry the weight either in the tank or in lead on your body.
My Wife's tanks are the E series steel 80's, a little more capacity than aluminum 80's but they are smaller and therefore displace much less water, so even though I think they may be lighter than an aluminum 80, you don't need as much lead with them as you do with an aluminum 80

Yep. When I said, "They are supposedly the same size as the FX100" I meant the same displacement, external size, not internal size or capacity.