Poll- Do you agree with the CDS getting out of the C- Card business?

[Benthic]

There is a quote mark with a plus next to it in the bottom right hand corner (third option ofter reply and reply with quote), this is the multi quote option.

Exactly. So if you want to multi-quote, just click the multi-quote button for all the posts you want EXCEPT THE LAST ONE. Then, on the last one, click "Reply With Quote" and you should get a message editor that has all the posts you selected shown as quotes, and you can type away to your heart's content.

Brian

[Sludge]

Good 0ld Boys Clubs, (GOBC), do exist

Every time I see this term being used I just shake my head. It's a mixed metaphor! It combines the term "old boys club" (a British term that refers to men who meet in boarding school and keep a network going for life) with the term "good old boy," an American euphemism for an uneducated redneck.

[FW]

Every time I see this term being used I just shake my head. It's a mixed metaphor! It combines the term "old boys club" (a British term that refers to men who meet in boarding school and keep a network going for life) with the term "good old boy," an American euphemism for an uneducated redneck.

So a GOBC would refer to uneducated rednecks that met in 4H and kept a network going for life?

[Jont]

It is easy, just click Reply with Quote one each one, highlight the whole quote, and save it to Notepad. Then copy the whole mess to a new post, and edit out what you don't intend to answer.

Be sure to leave all the [QUOTE and [/QUOTE parts or it will like like this line.

Wow

There is a quote mark with a plus next to it in the bottom right hand corner (third option ofter reply and reply with quote), this is the multi quote option.

Its really that easy

Does it work with different pages?

[Sludge]

Does it work with different pages?

Yes.

[bletso]

So how do you propose that we unrig that bell without dire consequence to the organization?

What evidence do you have to support that position?

What specific course of action or plan have you come up with?

I don't propose to unrig, I am one of those that don't give a toss any more.

I think that is quite evident, no specific events that really stick out at the moment. I dropped out a few years ago and stay only marginally in the melee. Needless to say the NSS-CDS is not the same organization it was twenty years ago.

It is up to the members to steer the board who will have to take the appropriate steps. In the end, after all is said and done, then if the CDS is on a path more akin to what it was years ago, then maybe I would re-join. It really comes down to the fact that I really don't need it to dive caves. I have dove Cow, nice cave but there are more caves than I will ever be able to dive in.

I realize that it is a voluntary organization, but I think they really need to become much more pro-active in cave conservation, i. e. Saving the aquifers before the caves become too polluted to dive. If the CDS wants to continue as an educational organization, then perhaps the courses should be more demanding and much more emphasis on the cave environment.

[Jont]

I realize that it is a voluntary organization, but I think they really need to become much more pro-active in cave conservation, i. e. Saving the aquifers before the caves become too polluted to dive. If the CDS wants to continue as an educational organization, then perhaps the courses should be more demanding and much more emphasis on the cave environment.

Thats a good point and I think thats the best and safest way to go about it.

But you do care because you spent the time to respond to the thread several times.

[Jont]

Every time I see this term being used I just shake my head. It's a mixed metaphor! It combines the term "old boys club" (a British term that refers to men who meet in boarding school and keep a network going for life) with the term "good old boy," an American euphemism for an uneducated redneck.

Agreed, its a silly term for the lazy

[billyf]

Is the CDS a leader in Cave Diving education?

I say NO!

Why:
When you actively hide and deny active CDS members from seeing the training standards you are not a leader!

I am no longer a CDS member, why?

After several requests (formal and informal) to obtain a copy of the training standards which were all denied, I could no longer support an organization that I couldn't even determine whether or not they were doing the right thing caused me to end my association with them.

And I pose this question to everyone that reads this: How do you know that the CDS training standards are up to your standards?

[Jont]

Is the CDS a leader in Cave Diving education?

I say NO!

Why:
When you actively hide and deny active CDS members from seeing the training standards you are not a leader!

I am no longer a CDS member, why?

After several requests (formal and informal) to obtain a copy of the training standards which were all denied, I could no longer support an organization that I couldn't even determine whether or not they were doing the right thing caused me to end my association with them.

And I pose this question to everyone that reads this: How do you know that the CDS training standards are up to your standards?

There's got to be more to this?