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  • Yes, I agree

    2 1.89%
  • Yes, and I would donate $

    3 2.83%
  • Maybe, but only if done right

    4 3.77%
  • No, it rubs me the wrong way

    34 32.08%
  • No, big mistake!

    74 69.81%
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  1. #1
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    Default Memorial Fund for Cave Divers who Die in Caves

    Would you support a fund to help the surviving family members financially if a cave diver dives while cave diving?

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    No,
    To begin with surely any amount that could be given would be trivial, and I believe could actually do more harm than good as in cause grief to the family as opposed to reduce it. Then there is the nasty problem of deciding who gets how much etc.


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    Skip this is something like what we had when I worked for the telephone company in Georgia. It was called "The Georgia Memory Fund" When a person hired on they had a chose of joining if they so choose. Once a telephone person passed away the beneficiary would receive a dollar from each participants. In the 70 and 80's when the company had between 3 and 4 thousand members the program worked fine but as the company kept down sizing the amount grew smaller and smaller till it wasn't worth being a member. Now the two main cave organizations CDS and NSS-CDS have both lost members to the point that I personally don't see it working. Wish I could be proven wrong.


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    Military units usually had a "cup n flower" fund, you paid in when you joined the unit and if you lost a family member flowers were sent, had a kid, a cup was bought. Both nickel and dime stuff of course.
    I think maybe starting a scholarship fund for surviving kids may be something that is within reach financially? even if it were just books for a quarter, it would be something?


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    Money is something that, when you feel like it, you can buy stuff or use it for a good time. I dont see where it would prolong the grief process which is gonna last a while anyway. Waiting a month before giving it out might help. Then again if the recipient knows a check is coming for this mishap, they might be calling wondering when its coming. Nice life insurance checks usually take some of the sting out, why not a smaller one?


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    Would it pay to families of someone who violated an accident analysis guideline, which lead to their death? If so then absolutely not.

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    Would you support a fund to help the surviving family members financially if that same cave diver dies in a car crash instead of in a cave?

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    Shouldn't you make sure your family members will be O.K. if you die in a cave, before you take up Cave Diving?


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    Shouldn't you always make sure your family is provided for? It has nothing to do with cave diving. When someone dies and leaves his family no support, why should it matter whether he died in a cave or hit by a bus? Having a family is an obligation. Everyone should live up to the obligation of providing for survivors by having either sufficient assets or life insurance. Risky hobbies shouldn't affect anything (except the cost).

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    Some people that are in the military do have life insurance for their family. The problem is that all insurance has stipulations, break one of them and it does not pay out. (dishonorable discharge for actions unbecoming of an officer, for example)

    Every parent should ensure that their family is taken care of to the best of their abilities if they should pass for any reason. The choices of the family after you pass is what truly ensures their long term success.

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