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    Can anyone tell me why Peacock is not open to diving at this time?


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    Visibility.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shocky View Post
    Can anyone tell me why Peacock is not open to diving at this time?
    Because visibility the last two times it was checked was below park minimums,and there is still an active boil that is blowing out river water. The plans are a team will go in the beginning of this week,and check conditions. South Georgia received a record rain fall for late February,and with depleted aquifer,the reversal was rather rapid,and absorded a lot of river water. Characterisitic signs are not only debris that was carried in,but the changes to bottom topography. Source tunnels are spewing large quantities of river water,and this has caused the system to be poor for a prolonged period of time. There are some positive signs that we have received,and encouraged by the signs,but also noteworthy is that south Georgia has gotten several rain events since the closure which has slowed the clearing process. For many cave divers who received training during this era of a drought,it is frustrating that a site has prolonged closure,when normally it is open. But,I recall a rainy season in the mid-90s where Peacock was closed for over 3 months,and some of the earlier cave divers had told me about a time that Peacock was closed for 6months due to localized rains. Cross your fingers and lets hope we get some good news,because trust me,we want to see the park open because number of visitors per annum is very important for determining if the park is in the red or balck.

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    PS-something to me of greater concern is the amount of land north of Peacock that was being used for timber,has been clearcut,and now prepared for row crop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Jessop View Post
    PS-something to me of greater concern is the amount of land north of Peacock that was being used for timber,has been clearcut,and now prepared for row crop.
    Was it clearcut for timber or gainesville's new biomass power plant? Gainesville sold everybody on the fact that it would run on yard waste; now they're cutting every tree they can. Note all the clearcuts on CR340 (aka Poe Springs Road) and the old truss mill is now a collection point for biomass.


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    I hope the state counts cars in the parking lot rather than money in the iron ranger. I buy an annual pass mostly to use at Peacock, but I purchase the pass wherever I happen to be when the old one expires (usually John Lloyd or Pennekamp).

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    Quote Originally Posted by allen View Post
    I hope the state counts cars in the parking lot rather than money in the iron ranger. I buy an annual pass mostly to use at Peacock, but I purchase the pass wherever I happen to be when the old one expires (usually John Lloyd or Pennekamp).
    That is something we pointed out. Most parks get a majority of their visitors by paying at a ranger station versus passes,so tracking numbers is very easy. Many cave divers use the annual recreational passes,so counting deposits in the iron ranger is statistically skewed. Park management took this observation under advisement,and was looking how to get a better statistical handle on number of park visitors. Also,the formula suggests that each park visitor generates $45 expended per visitor in the community to show economic benefit to the community ie. jobs,but for cave divers this number is too low as noted in a study by Bill Huth.

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    Kelly,

    Do you think it would be feasible to put in one of those pneumatic counters? It would require a slab of cement at the iron ranger and one of those things that used to ring the bell at a gas station when gas stations were full service. Or perhaps there could be a sign in form at the iron ranger indicating the pass number of the person entering and the purpose of their visit. No money paid, just our pass numbers and license plate number.

    This would help count actual visitors and might be able to help identify divers if there was a box on the form for purpose of visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Jessop View Post
    That is something we pointed out. Most parks get a majority of their visitors by paying at a ranger station versus passes,so tracking numbers is very easy. Many cave divers use the annual recreational passes,so counting deposits in the iron ranger is statistically skewed. Park management took this observation under advisement,and was looking how to get a better statistical handle on number of park visitors. Also,the formula suggests that each park visitor generates $45 expended per visitor in the community to show economic benefit to the community ie. jobs,but for cave divers this number is too low as noted in a study by Bill Huth.
    For many of the mountain biking parks around here they require that you sign in and sign out to show usage, even if it's free. Orlando Wetlands Park (popular hiking spot) does this as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly Jessop View Post
    That is something we pointed out. ......... Also,the formula suggests that each park visitor generates $45 expended per visitor in the community to show economic benefit to the community ie. jobs,but for cave divers this number is too low as noted in a study by Bill Huth.
    I leave a minimum of $2,000 of my hard earned dollars behind when making my multiple trips per year. I'm sure guys like Dan Wright and Jon Taylor leave a lot more in the local economy when they visit for a month at a time or more. now on a per dive or per site basis it washes out a bit but for us yankees it's much higher than $45.



 

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