Planning a scooter dive to Heinkel restriction for very first time ...

[sebaworld]

Hi guys,
I try to dive caves as much as possible few times a year but definitely not so much like some of you so I would like to use your experience in matter of getting to Heinkel restriction. If you could provide valuable info like average depth , max depth, exact distance, best way to get there and simply everything that will make our dive a pleasure and fun experience. I have done lots of Florida caves including Ginnie but never going further than Bats, and some point as far as approx. 1600 ft from the entrance. We will be diving sidemount open circuit (one of us rebreather) with scooters (two each).

Thanks for your help to determine either we will have what it takes to do that dive safely

Best for all.
Sebastian

[Dsix36]

I plan for 4ata and 3100 feet. Mainline all the way for your first trip. And to be the a-hole, I think you should swim it before scootering there.

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[LiteHedded]

avg depth is probably 85'. there's a big gold line you can follow all the way there. the rocket ship ride on the way out is fun.
i think it's like 3k feet but I dunno. it's on all the maps...

[MedCop]

Hit the gold line at the sign in the Gallery and keep going 3100' or so, when you get to white line tied into gold you found it.

[w ripley]

Stage Rock, as its name implies, is a good place to drop your stage, assuming you carry one. You won't miss it on your left as you go in, as it has a big white rock ledge with the yellow main line running right over it.

My only suggestion is to do yourself a favor, recognizing that you will have a lot of flow pushing behind you on your way out, is to dial back your blade (or reduce your speed). You'll see more of the cave + will have more time to make adjustments in your rig & navigation as you exit.

Figure 30 minutes going in to the restriction on a moderate blade setting.

[whodunit68]

~3150' main line 35 minutes on a viper setting 4 (see more cave). avg depth 20 meters/64'. agreed with above, swim it before scootering.

[T. Bix]

I'll humor you for a minute..... How many stages do you guys use to get that far back and what kinda SAC rates do you typically have?

[whodunit68]

.55 no scooter, 3 stages.
.35-.4 with scoot, 1 stage and Al.

[sebaworld]

1. Ok so I'm replying and next questions to all,
- we're big guys 240 lbs, would say rather fit than not

2. On average ocean wreck dive (thats what we do the most here in North East) my sac rate will be somewhere from 0.6 - 0.7 with full configuration, steel doubles, one or two stages, drysuit etc. but no scooter
With scooter would say somewhere from 0.45 and up.

3. How long does it take to swim there (from - to in average) just finning, in average not killing myself speed ?

4. Somebody mentioned the white line meaning I'm there, what that line is there for?

[sebaworld]

Hey what that white line is for there ? Since its tight in its not a jump so ??!