Gas Management for Peacock III/Syphon?

[RN]

If you have a lot of gear on you you will notice that flow on exit

Arbitrary rules like quarters or sixths don't make much sense to me. I think you should put more thought into it than that when diving siphons.

Not a single person has posted that they use an arbitrary rule like quarters or sixths. Some of us have posted that we sometimes dive 1/4s but everyone so far has posted a few variations. Rather than trying to blame people for something that hasn't even been stated why not contribute something to the thread? For instance, what kind of thought do you put into it when diving siphons?

[PfcAJ]

There are people out there who DO pick a fraction and roll with it. I don't see where anyone accused a particular person of doing that....

[jj1987]

You can swim half the freaking cave on a single stage + 1/6ths. Trying to be precise when it's so easy to be conservative is like bringing a graphing calculator to 2nd grade math class. I always attempt to avoid siphon diving if I can go upstream instead (such as a circuit), but if I can't, I'll look in my log book for a similar flow cave, see how far I got on 1/3rds when going against the flow and know that's the furthest I can be when I hit 2/3 remaining.

Not a single person has posted that they use an arbitrary rule like quarters or sixths. Some of us have posted that we sometimes dive 1/4s but everyone so far has posted a few variations. Rather than trying to blame people for something that hasn't even been stated why not contribute something to the thread? For instance, what kind of thought do you put into it when diving siphons?

I didn't really see any thought explained in your post either, just two completely random numbers with no explanation.

[RN]

I don't see where anyone accused a particular person of doing that....

The implication was there.

I didn't really see any thought explained in your post either, just two completely random numbers with no explanation.

But Brian didn't provide anything at all other than criticism. I provided a starting point and responded directly to the OP regarding what I do at P3. The OP simply asked what people are doing. Brian decided to come in and criticize everyone's response stating

Arbitrary rules like quarters or sixths don't make much sense to me. I think you should put more thought into it than that when diving siphons.

Since he brought it up I'd like to read what kind of thought he puts into it.

[PfcAJ]

Somebody call a whambulance! I think you're just really reading into things and jumping to a false conclusion. Guilty conscience? Or just mad because you gave an arbitrary fraction?

[adam_Hughes]

Last week there was no noticeable flow at P3. Dove backmount 104's. dropped off a deco bottle at the ledge and didn't notice anything different after picking it up on the way out.

However it has rained a good amount since a week ago. Not sure how that affects things in the area...?

[RN]

Somebody call a whambulance! I think you're just really reading into things and jumping to a false conclusion. Guilty conscience? Or just mad because you gave an arbitrary fraction?

Now you're just getting personal. But that doesn't surprise me from you.

There were responses to the OP. If you re-read the OP it asks "what are people really doing in P3". You responded with 2x the gas to exit, which is 1/4s. Mark and I answered with a couple of variations. My response was due to the fact that the amount of flow siphoning in will vary, as you can see by my comment about the duck weed. So actually looking at this again, it appears Brian may have been directing his comment at you seeing as you are the only one that gave an arbitrary rule...

As for a guilty conscience, not the case. Just because I didn't thoroughly explain my technique for gas calculations here doesn't mean I don't do something more than an arbitrary number. I use something similar to what I do for DPV diving, which I'm sure would probably blow your mind. And I don't see any arbitrary fraction in any of my posts.

But hey, again, I don't expect much more from you anyway since you are the one who posted an arbitrary fraction...

[PfcAJ]

Thats not what I said, Rob.

1/4s would be what I said if we were talking about a no flow cave. A siphon has flow. That's why its called a siphon. Therefor, I didn't say 1/4s. 2x the gas to exit is different than 1/4s in a siphon.

I would expect just about anything you cook up to blow my mind.

[aquadog196]

Maybe we can get the NFSA (not the National Flying Squirrel Association) to install a flow meter at P3.

[LiteHedded]

this thread got fun.
the butthurt is strong in here