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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Carlisle View Post
    @ Jordan, We have more than one Biologist and Marine Biologist on board. As you can read we are NEW, we do have plans in the works for our scientist. Or, whoever joins as a member is welcome to suggest projects also.
    Kevin, I would like to see everyone's credentials on the BoD, since it is a 501c3. What are the specialties of each biologist, their research backgrounds, and where are their degrees from? What will be the focus of the published research papers for the ASA?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jcook View Post
    Kevin, I would like to see everyone's credentials on the BoD, since it is a 501c3. What are the specialties of each biologist, their research backgrounds, and where are their degrees from? What will be the focus of the published research papers for the ASA?
    Why do you have to go the passive aggressive route, why not just say you're trying to tarnish anyone's reputation that's not associated with your BFF, Greg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj1987 View Post
    Why do you have to go the passive aggressive route, why not just say you're trying to tarnish anyone's reputation that's not associated with your BFF, Greg?
    I am not trying to tarnish anyone's reputation, maybe you are thinking of yourself and what you try to do to me James. Am I not allowed to ask for information about a BoD of a 501c3? I thought that was supposed to be public knowledge. Gregg and I do not see eye to eye on everything, but we are still friends, but not as you say, BFF. Am I not the only one that thinks this ASA sounds like an old boys club? 2 guys that own a shop together and their buddies on the BoD, seems a little fishy to me. Again, I could be completely wrong.


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    "Old Boys Club" implies exclusivity.... something I've experienced as a cave diver when denied access where others are 'permit'ted to go. Membership to groups with access is often heavily restricted or closed.

    That is not the case here... they are actively promoting the Aquatic Science Association for membership.

    I joined because I support their mission to acquire land w/ karst features for conservation and exploration. I joined the NSS-CDS for the same reason: they have a Karst property management plan which conserves and protects while still allowing access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinc View Post
    "Old Boys Club" implies exclusivity.... something I've experienced as a cave diver when denied access where others are 'permit'ted to go. Membership to groups with access is often heavily restricted or closed.

    That is not the case here... they are actively promoting the Aquatic Science Association for membership.

    I joined because I support their mission to acquire land w/ karst features for conservation and exploration. I joined the NSS-CDS for the same reason: they have a Karst property management plan which conserves and protects while still allowing access.

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    Oh, well said, Brandon!

    Thanks for actually reading, understanding and then choosing to support!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcook View Post
    Am I not the only one that thinks this ASA sounds like an old boys club? 2 guys that own a shop together and their buddies on the BoD, seems a little fishy to me.
    For anyone who would put any merit into this... consider that the 2 guys he was reffering to are from TX, and have no history with the Florida GOB agencies.

    So yeah, completely wrong and nothing fishy about it except for the fact that there seems to be an agenda against this newly created group.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuPrBuGmAn View Post
    For anyone who would put any merit into this... consider that the 2 guys he was reffering to are from TX, and have no history with the Florida GOB agencies.

    So yeah, completely wrong and nothing fishy about it except for the fact that there seems to be an agenda against this newly created group.
    Some people "having an agenda against this newly created group" is sometimes the best testament to the organization!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcook View Post
    Kevin, I would like to see everyone's credentials on the BoD, since it is a 501c3. What are the specialties of each biologist, their research backgrounds, and where are their degrees from? What will be the focus of the published research papers for the ASA?
    Jordon, are you a member? If not,what right do you have to ask? It is the IRS' place to establish the qualifications of the organization it certifies.

    No, you don't have a 'right' to anything. Rights are written into the Constitution of the United States. Furthermore, those rights as placed in the Constitution are restrictions on the Gov't, not private people or organizations.

    So, bottom line, you can ask what you damn well please, but no one has to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    Jordon, are you a member? If not,what right do you have to ask? It is the IRS' place to establish the qualifications of the organization it certifies.

    No, you don't have a 'right' to anything. Rights are written into the Constitution of the United States. Furthermore, those rights as placed in the Constitution are restrictions on the Gov't, not private people or organizations.

    So, bottom line, you can ask what you damn well please, but no one has to answer.
    Actually to qualify for a 501c3, you do have to publish research and make the info public.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jcook View Post
    Actually to qualify for a 501c3, you do have to publish research and make the info public.
    Week 1?

    Quote Originally Posted by jcook View Post
    I am not trying to tarnish anyone's reputation, maybe you are thinking of yourself and what you try to do to me James. Am I not allowed to ask for information about a BoD of a 501c3? I thought that was supposed to be public knowledge. Gregg and I do not see eye to eye on everything, but we are still friends, but not as you say, BFF. Am I not the only one that thinks this ASA sounds like an old boys club? 2 guys that own a shop together and their buddies on the BoD, seems a little fishy to me. Again, I could be completely wrong.
    Sure-- feel free to ask. To my knowledge, you don't have any rights to someone's personal history even if they're on a 501c3. They have to do research that's of benefit to the general public and make it availble, but the idea that they have to disclose their educational background and work history is off base, at least to the best of my understanding of this issue.

    Calling it a GOB club is a bit premature. For now, it seems like someone wanted to start a non profit and pitched the idea to a few friends. I don't know of any other way to start a non profit.

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