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    Quote Originally Posted by gasdiver View Post
    Where do you buy them? I had something similar many years ago and liked it. After some recent long dives, I've given thought to trying them out again.
    I have one on my meg rebreather and like it but all my openwater regs are apeks and they don't (or at least as of last dema) make a version that fits an apeks.

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    The one issue I saw with Seacures when I used them years ago was in handing them off to someone else. I remember something about my Seacure mouthpiece being longer than my wife's and it made it difficult for her to use mine. IIRC you can trim the mouthpiece down somewhat. I just hadn't done that. I ended up just going back to regular mouthpieces. My favorite mouthpiece now is the Comfobite. To distinguish between left and right I cut off a small edge of the left mouthpiece making it flat rather than round. The area I cut is right by my tongue and it's just become 2nd nature to feel that area with my tongue. When I feel the straight edge I know to donate the other reg. When I don't feel it I donate that reg. I've been doing this for years and never have an issue knowing which reg I'm breathing from.

    In the photo below, the gray line is where I cut my mouthpiece. Something similar can be done with any mouthpiece.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RN View Post
    ...something about my Seacure mouthpiece being longer than my wife's and it made it difficult for her to use mine.
    My daughter tried mine one weekend and it caused a gag reflex. Mine is the full length and I like that cause it really cuts down on jaw fatique.

    Quote Originally Posted by RN View Post
    The area I cut is right by my tongue and it's just become 2nd nature to feel that area with my tongue. When I feel the straight edge I know to donate the other reg. When I don't feel it I donate that reg.
    I like this idea and am going to do it with my sidemount regs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingman View Post
    I have one on my meg rebreather and like it but all my openwater regs are apeks and they don't (or at least as of last dema) make a version that fits an apeks.
    The Seacure size II fits Apeks regs, according to the package insert. I have Seacures on several of my Apeks TX40's and TX50's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skorpiov View Post
    My daughter tried mine one weekend and it caused a gag reflex. Mine is the full length and I like that cause it really cuts down on jaw fatique.
    They can definitely cause smaller mouthed people to gag. I've seen it happen several times in classes. I try to discourage their use on regs which might be donated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rjack View Post
    They can definitely cause smaller mouthed people to gag. I've seen it happen several times in classes. I try to discourage their use on regs which might be donated.
    I agree with that!

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    I used to agree with that, but I've found if you trim the tabs short enough, it is a non-problem.

    I do agree that using one that is still full length is a bad idea.

    I also pretty much consider an reg as a reg that might potentially be donated, so I see no value in trying to discriminate or maintain separate standards for different second stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MORGAN View Post
    The Seacure size II fits Apeks regs, according to the package insert. I have Seacures on several of my Apeks TX40's and TX50's.
    Thanks for the info, i will check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DA Aquamaster View Post
    I used to agree with that, but I've found if you trim the tabs short enough, it is a non-problem.

    I do agree that using one that is still full length is a bad idea.

    I also pretty much consider an reg as a reg that might potentially be donated, so I see no value in trying to discriminate or maintain separate standards for different second stages.
    But you dive the same length hoses on both sides. Not everyone decides to dive that way. And for those of us that don't, differentiating the regs helps quite a bit. Part of my sidemount training is building the muscle memory to always donate the reg with the long hose. By the end of my sidemount class most of my students don't even hesitate when confronted with an out of air signal, and the ones that do hesitate only do so for a second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MORGAN View Post
    The Seacure size II fits Apeks regs, according to the package insert. I have Seacures on several of my Apeks TX40's and TX50's.
    That's interesting because their web site does not list the apeks for the size II and there is a message there that says it does not fit. I have a mix of 50 and atx200...i will wait and ask them at their dema booth in las vegas this year to get the official and final word.

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