Worthington vs. faber lp85

[darkdiver211]

I don't like worthington because they would not replace or somehow warrant (4) 120's that that were less than a year old and were rusting. My dive shop was pissed when worthington refused to even look at them.

[Sludge]

I don't like worthington because they would not replace or somehow warrant (4) 120's that that were less than a year old and were rusting. My dive shop was pissed when worthington refused to even look at them.

That's funny - I also have a bad taste for Worthington because our shop got eight of them in in 2005, and every one had a lot of rust in the o-ring gland.

[ScubaSteveL]

What's different in a cave that would make Fabers not ride high at the butt of the tank?

I'm guessing the ceiling of the cave...

[RN]

I think he is implying that most cave divers end their dives with a large enough volume of gas to prevent the lift.

Fabers start to roll at about 2200 psi. They get really bad at 1600 psi. While I end most of my dives with no less than 2000 psi I don't think that's the case for most cave divers.

[floridakid]

Fabers start to roll at about 2200 psi. They get really bad at 1600 psi. While I end most of my dives with no less than 2000 psi I don't think that's the case for most cave divers.

My 72s pretty much do the same thing, but if I move the clips from the buttplate to the waist D-rings they trim out correctly again. It kind of sucks because they don't trim when clipped to the waist D-rings when the cylinders are full so I have to switch them durring the dive. It is kind of a pain, but it does work and on some dives the benifits of the 72s do outweigh the slight inconvenience of moving the clips. Someone I dive with pretty regularly does the same thing with his faber lp 85s and it works quite nicely. After he switches them to the waist D-rings, they trim out just as well as they did at the start of the dive.

[JamesK]

My 72s pretty much do the same thing, but if I move the clips from the buttplate to the waist D-rings they trim out correctly again. It kind of sucks because they don't trim when clipped to the waist D-rings when the cylinders are full so I have to switch them durring the dive. It is kind of a pain, but it does work and on some dives the benifits of the 72s do outweigh the slight inconvenience of moving the clips. Someone I dive with pretty regularly does the same thing with his faber lp 85s and it works quite nicely. After he switches them to the waist D-rings, they trim out just as well as they did at the start of the dive.

I am used to doing that with AL80's so it would be nothing new if I go with Fabers. I am trying to decide on which steel tanks to buy now. Heck, I may just stick with AL80's for shorter/shallow dives since I am already quite used to them.

[floridakid]

I am used to doing that with AL80's so it would be nothing new if I go with Fabers. I am trying to decide on which steel tanks to buy now. Heck, I may just stick with AL80's for shorter/shallow dives since I am already quite used to them.

Not to hijack the thread, but...

When I started getting into technical diving I was really shocked at how much more gas you can cary in a steel tank compared to an AL 80 (hell, it still impresses me). What I find even more amazing is, for the most part, steel tanks are not much heavier than AL 80s when you consider the lead you will have to drag around with the AL 80s. It amazes me that even with giant tanks like LP 120s or HP 144s, the steel tanks are tiny and lightweight compared to the number of AL 80s you would have to drag around to have the same volume of gas. In fact, my steel 72s are lighter out of the water snd more negative in the water than AL 80s. At equal pressure my 72s hold a little more gas than the AL 80s and the 72s have a smaller diameter than AL 80s. Honestly, I am kind of shocked that they no longer make LP 72s anymore.

[JamesK]

Not to hijack the thread, but...

When I started getting into technical diving I was really shocked at how much more gas you can cary in a steel tank compared to an AL 80 (hell, it still impresses me). What I find even more amazing is, for the most part, steel tanks are not much heavier than AL 80s when you consider the lead you will have to drag around with the AL 80s. It amazes me that even with giant tanks like LP 120s or HP 144s, the steel tanks are tiny and lightweight compared to the number of AL 80s you would have to drag around to have the same volume of gas. In fact, my steel 72s are lighter out of the water snd more negative in the water than AL 80s. At equal pressure my 72s hold a little more gas than the AL 80s and the 72s have a smaller diameter than AL 80s. Honestly, I am kind of shocked that they no longer make LP 72s anymore.

Oh, I agree. I feel steel is superior for main tanks, but then that means spending more money! I already have plenty of AL80's that I can throw two on and a stage, and have a nice dive. Either that or spend money on more tanks and a larger wing, since I only have a 20lb Zwing. Sigh..... I don't want to break down any of my doubled up 104's and those are just too dang big IMO. Sigh again..... I need to hit the lottery.

[Unregistered User]

Oh, I agree. I feel steel is superior for main tanks, but then that means spending more money!
...Sigh again..... I need to hit the lottery.

Amen on that , brother. You can never, NEVER, have too many steel tanks. I have SM heiser 45s for Suwanee Blue, USD SM 72s for Jug Hole, SM faber LP95s, SM coyne 95s, BM PST 95s, BM PST 120s, 2 O/W USD 72s, and another PST 72 dedicated to O2 deco and I will NEVER get rid of any of them.

Lotto is not in my future.


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[Neptuno]

walking 15-20 min in the jungle will make the difference between AL and Steel, but ####, I wish we can have high pressure fills down here in DR.... would switch the al80 for lp85's...