Caves appropriate for intro level

[RN]

First, I'm not asking because I don't know. I have my own opinion on this.

For those of you that have been to these caves or know anything about them, do you feel Bozell and Maddachalk are appropriate for intro level cave divers?

For those of you not familiar and feel the need to give your opinion (I'm sure there are plenty of you ), these are both river caves with no gold line. Bozell has a sidemount restriction close to the entrance. There is a backmount entrance but to get to it requires trespassing on private property. Maddachalk can be backmounted but it is low, silty, and fragile. Lots of delicate goethite and clay formations.

Have at it!

[harmstrong]

No, neither of them is appropriate for Intro divers.

[jj1987]

There is a backmount entrance but to get to it requires trespassing on private property.

No, it doesn't. Look up next time before you go through the SM restriction.

Either way, it's deeper than 100ft, which I believe makes it not an intro cave.

Of course I don't think people should be doing training drills in the horseshoe circuit either, and they still do that, so maybe I'm just behind the times

[CaveMD]

I've never been to either but from what I have heard, neither of them sound appropriate.

[Jim Wyatt]

No, neither of them is appropriate for Intro divers.

Clearly not...This should be a no brainer

[a64pilot]

Rob, since this is a rhetorical question, why are you asking?
It may not be written, but I thought Intro implied gold line only, doesn't it?

[Sludge]

Intro won't allow restrictions, correct? Minor restrictions included, which means two divers cannot pass simultaneously.

That was what my instructor said, meaning when diving Madison Blue we couldn't use the Rabbit Hole entrance.

[jj1987]

Intro won't allow restrictions, correct? Minor restrictions included, which means two divers cannot pass simultaneously.

That was what my instructor said, meaning when diving Madison Blue we couldn't use the Rabbit Hole entrance.

If that was enforced, intro divers couldn't dive Ginnie (keyhole).

[Sludge]

1. Two divers can go through the Keyhole if they're one above the other, not side-by-side.

2. You can use the Keyhole Bypass (around to the right). When swimming I usually use this to exit.

[CaveMD]

Intro won't allow restrictions, correct? Minor restrictions included, which means two divers cannot pass simultaneously.

That was what my instructor said, meaning when diving Madison Blue we couldn't use the Rabbit Hole entrance.

Or hole in the wall iirc

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