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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesK View Post
    .... It is going to be a sad day when we are all labeled as sump divers.
    And just why is being a sump diver "sad"?

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    One thing I can't quite get my head around is "where is all the water"? It's mostly all still in Florida, just in a different place, right? A person pulls it out of the aquifer, waters his lawn, then it goes back to the aquifer. Water is circulating through pipes, people, water bottles, etc, but it all goes back at some point. Maybe there are just so MANY pipes and people now carrying the water that that is the new aquifer (joke). Water doesn't disappear, it just moves to another place, right?

    Someone please educate me. Other than a small percentage that gets bottled and sent out of the state, where is all the water?

    Sorry in advance for sounding like a dumba$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilldive View Post
    One thing I can't quite get my head around is "where is all the water"? It's mostly all still in Florida, just in a different place, right? A person pulls it out of the aquifer, waters his lawn, then it goes back to the aquifer. Water is circulating through pipes, people, water bottles, etc, but it all goes back at some point. Maybe there are just so MANY pipes and people now carrying the water that that is the new aquifer (joke). Water doesn't disappear, it just moves to another place, right?

    Someone please educate me. Other than a small percentage that gets bottled and sent out of the state, where is all the water?

    Sorry in advance for sounding like a dumba$$.
    Florida and Georgia have been in legal disputes for years over water rights. There are dams in Georgia that affect the Florida aquifer. There are 2 major bottling companies in those 2 states - Zephyrhills and Dasani. Those brands get shipped all over the country. The amount of water sent out of state is probably much greater than we all think.

    Another thing to think about it where the water goes. We tap into the aquifer and move it to populated areas so everyone can have lush green lawns. Yes, that water goes back into the ground, but the water that we see in the springs of cave country is water than seeped into the ground about 14 years ago. The water that we see coming out of the Mill Pond is water that seeped into the ground 17 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    And just why is being a sump diver "sad"?


    It would be sad because the water level would be so low that we would all have to dry cave to the water, which would now be a sump? I think . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post


    It would be sad because the water level would be so low that we would all have to dry cave to the water, which would now be a sump? I think . . .
    I "dry" cave to get to water all the time. Is isn't at all "sad". Look at the link in my signature line

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    Look at the link in my signature line
    Gee, I thought that meant that you were repairing the pumps in peoples basements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    And just why is being a sump diver "sad"?
    I think you took that the wrong way. Nothing is sad about being a sump diver, heck I want to learn more about it, what will be sad is when we are sump divers because places like peacock have become dry caves and sumps. That is what I was getting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesK View Post
    I think you took that the wrong way. Nothing is sad about being a sump diver, heck I want to learn more about it, what will be sad is when we are sump divers because places like peacock have become dry caves and sumps. That is what I was getting at.
    I know, didn't you see the

    FWIW: This has been happening in Australia for decades. The water level is down 30-40 feet in the last 30 years. It is even worse in the Nullarbor desert. You have to go 1000' back into a "dry" cave, and 300' down, to get to the water.

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