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    Edd's the man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesK View Post

    I think just by what I interpreted is that Edd had a class, and it was three OW divers that caused the issue, not in a class. I could obviously be very wrong on this. However, your last sentence is spot on!
    I had just arrived when it started, I hung around long enough to try to make my 02 bottle and other equipment available if needed, tried to stay out of the way. I don't think it had anything to do with open water guys, all had full cave gear, I think they were on their way out, in the chimney when a linkup was made, Beyond that I need to keep my thoughts / opinions to myself as I wasn't real impressed with what I think I saw go down, but surely I'm wrong, when you are on the outside looking in and only get half the story, often it's wrong. I decided to call the dive for that day and left when it became obvious that I couldn't be of any assistance.

    I will bring up for what's it's worth that Edd is one hell of a resource for that area, I'm sure any expenses from this type of thing, he has to "eat".

    The local emergency response guy's were phenomenal, within what seemed like seconds there was a fire truck, ambulance with the stretcher at the water side, and you could hear life flight coming for quite aways away, they had that helicopter at max tq. getting there, I don't think I have ever seen such a full bore response for what might be an emergency / bad outcome before, I'm real impressed with the local emergency response people in Jackson County, thy too need to somehow be thanked.


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    It is not often someone has a chance to so directly affect the lives of two other people and their families. Well done Edd, they owe you everything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by a64pilot View Post
    I had just arrived when it started, I hung around long enough to try to make my 02 bottle and other equipment available if needed, tried to stay out of the way. I don't think it had anything to do with open water guys, all had full cave gear, I think they were on their way out, in the chimney when a linkup was made, Beyond that I need to keep my thoughts / opinions to myself as I wasn't real impressed with what I think I saw go down, but surely I'm wrong, when you are on the outside looking in and only get half the story, often it's wrong. I decided to call the dive for that day and left when it became obvious that I couldn't be of any assistance.

    I will bring up for what's it's worth that Edd is one hell of a resource for that area, I'm sure any expenses from this type of thing, he has to "eat".

    The local emergency response guy's were phenomenal, within what seemed like seconds there was a fire truck, ambulance with the stretcher at the water side, and you could hear life flight coming for quite aways away, they had that helicopter at max tq. getting there, I don't think I have ever seen such a full bore response for what might be an emergency / bad outcome before, I'm real impressed with the local emergency response people in Jackson County, thy too need to somehow be thanked.
    Of course I don't want any speculation made, I would just like to know the entire story when it finally comes out. Not so any fingers can be pointed, but just so he speculation is killed, we here the true story, and we can all learn from it.

    It is great that everyone responded as quick as they did. That is phenomenal.

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    I would really like to hear the story from Edd's perspective. How he was feeling and what were his thoughts during the whole ordeal. I guess that I am very curious as to how he actually found the divers. I think this knowledge may be of benefit to other divers as well as myself.


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    I think if I'm not mistaken maybe Edd didn't find them, I think maybe they weren't very far in, maybe 400', in a very tight passage. They were all BM. I think one got separated from the rest, couldn't find them or maybe couldn't fit through the restriction? ALL of this is speculation, it is NOT necessarily fact, I was not in the cave, but on the outside by the diving board and just listening. I did not talk to any of them, just listened while they were in the water, I left before they got out. Anyway I think these two got their act together, figured things out and were on their way out themselves, someone, not Edd I think joined up with them in the chimney. They surfaced with I think 1000 and 1100 PSI respectively. That is NOT to take anything away from Edd, given a couple of more minutes, I'm sure he would have found them, but JB isn't small, and there are a few jumps pretty close to the beginning. God forbid, but if I ever need anyone to come for me, Edd is on a very short list of people whom I hope will be coming.
    Of course I could be wrong on all of this, so do not take this as anything but an opinion, I too am very interested on hearing what really went down and how it went.


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    So were the "lost" divers participating in a class or not? I think that IS important.


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    Quote Originally Posted by a64pilot View Post
    Of course I could be wrong on all of this, so do not take this as anything but an opinion, I too am very interested on hearing what really went down and how it went.
    Edd found the two, widely separated in silted-out passageway.

    I don't believe he will comment. He is a private kind of guy and is just happy that nobody got hurt and that it is all pretty much, over.

    Last edited by diveongas; 02-26-2012 at 05:13 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Edd pretty much saved the two guys. One panicked but according to Edd the other was calm, cool and doing what he was suppose to do and searching for the line. I was with Edd after closing and that story was kinda chilling. I wasn't there, so I wont say what happened but I hope this is carefully reviewed. There we're enough training directors present to maybe learn and make sure it doesn't happen again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by diveongas View Post
    Edd found the two, widely separated in silted-out passageway.

    I don't believe he will comment. He is a private kind of guy and is just happy that nobody got hurt and that it is all pretty much, over.
    I stand corrected, to be honest, I thought it strange when I heard they were found in the chimney and not by Edd, It seemed the only way that could happen was they came out of jump after Edd went past and found their own way out. Seeing as to how he found them widely separated and in a silted out area, they may not have made it without him
    I heard wrong, obviously.



 

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