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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    What has sadly changed is the existence of the internet. Before the internet, we usually didn't even know there was an accident for days, and analysis was left up to people like Sheck Exley, who published a book years after the accidents.

    This childish stomping of the foot, and saying "I want it NOW" will not do anything but make the situation worse. It has gotten to the point that anyone involved with an accident will never say a word, for fear they will be flamed for weeks or even years afterward.
    AMEN Forrest! I'm glad everyone made it out O.K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    What has sadly changed is the existence of the internet. Before the internet, we usually didn't even know there was an accident for days, and analysis was left up to people like Sheck Exley, who published a book years after the accidents.

    This childish stomping of the foot, and saying "I want it NOW" will not do anything but make the situation worse. It has gotten to the point that anyone involved with an accident will never say a word, for fear they will be flamed for weeks or even years afterward.
    Forrest,


    Sadly you are correct. There are a number of people I used to dive with that won't even talk to me anymore, apparently my diving is not up to there standards....


    I'm as big a proponent as anyone about getting facts out after an incident, but I can sure understand the reluctance in wanting to deal with the backlash.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Carlisle View Post
    Dont laugh, its very deep
    We can do the deep section now with your shiny new trimix card!


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    Quote Originally Posted by dweyant View Post
    I can sure understand the reluctance in wanting to deal with the backlash.
    What backlash? The two recent incidents where information has been quickly and transparently released, the groups have been commended for their honesty and willingness to learn from mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj1987 View Post
    What backlash? The two recent incidents where information has been quickly and transparently released, the groups have been commended for their honesty and willingness to learn from mistakes.
    What backlash?

    I've been told Richard's death was my fault. That I don't know how to dive, and my favorite that my level of risk is not compatible with the team. All by people I thought were friends.

    Fortunately I no longer have to deal with any of them, but it made for some pretty crappy times for a while, especially heaped on top of dealing with watching a good friend die.

    -Dan


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    Quote Originally Posted by dweyant View Post
    What backlash?

    I've been told Richard's death was my fault. That I don't know how to dive, and my favorite that my level of risk is not compatible with the team. All by people I thought were friends.

    Fortunately I no longer have to deal with any of them, but it made for some pretty crappy times for a while, especially heaped on top of dealing with watching a good friend die.

    -Dan
    I read your report, and everything else I could find about the incident. I only hope I could handle such a tragedy as well as you did, and truly appreciate your forthrightness.

    I would love the opportunity to dive with you.

    Shirley
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    Wow. People won't dive with you because of Richard's death. Dan, I'll dive with you any time.

    Whoever said money can't buy love never bought a puppy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dweyant View Post
    What backlash?

    I've been told Richard's death was my fault. That I don't know how to dive, and my favorite that my level of risk is not compatible with the team. All by people I thought were friends.

    Fortunately I no longer have to deal with any of them, but it made for some pretty crappy times for a while, especially heaped on top of dealing with watching a good friend die.

    -Dan
    If there was any trepedation about diving with you, the report you released erased it. I'd dive with you anytime(that we can get our schedules to actually work - LOL). I think you handled the situation as good as anyone could hope for...


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    Just started reading this thread yesterday after a friend told me about it (I have been in a shell the last few days). Glad all are OK. Thank you Edd for your help.

    Safe diving,

    Sandy Robinson

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    Quote Originally Posted by dweyant View Post
    What backlash?

    I've been told Richard's death was my fault. That I don't know how to dive, and my favorite that my level of risk is not compatible with the team. All by people I thought were friends.

    Fortunately I no longer have to deal with any of them, but it made for some pretty crappy times for a while, especially heaped on top of dealing with watching a good friend die.

    -Dan
    As you know we dive together all the time. Anyone who thinks you aren't safe does me a favor cause you are a great dive buddy.



 

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