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  1. #31
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    Default Re: Arrest should have been made

    Quote Originally Posted by curtschu
    That land owner should have been arrested and charge with assault. Just because you own land does not give you the right to threaten people with no visible means of causing you bodily harm. If he was in his House or the cartilage then maybe. But out in the woods no-way. Just my 2cents

    Curt
    Haven't spent much time around N. FL have you? (especially "back in the day") LOL

    Although I wasn't cave diving back in those days, I still frequented the area and I can very much see stories like these happening.

    Arrest the landowner, ha! - what are you smoking! Plus the landowner was probably in the Sheriff's Sunday School class or something like that.... you know good ole' Andy Griffith type stuff...

    Landowners like that are why we all need to present ourselves in a positive light and not do stupid things..

    JB


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    Quote Originally Posted by JP
    With all due respect if you didnt understand that pointing a shotgun at someone was assualt then I would leave the legal arguments alone.
    Hello??????

    The above statute spells out when it isn't assault, but justified.

    Maybe one of the other moderators will decide to lock this thread. I think we've strayed about as far as we need to.

    No hard feelings against anyone who has disagreed with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sludge
    Everyone's aware that, in Georgia, if you break into someone's house and he shoots you, the law considers it justified. The above statute shows how it also applies to one's property and stuff.

    Again, I should have acknowledged that my knowledge of the law applies to Georgia. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if Florida has a similar statute.

    Russell
    Actually FL just "cleaned up" their statutes related to self defense with a firearm. Apparently you used to have to show "retreat" before you could justifiably shoot an attacker who threatened your life - now you don't have to. This makes FL more in line with other states when it comes to self-defense using deadly force. All the anti-gun forces had a short lived and illogical outcry against this modification until Jeb Bush signed it into law - good job Florida! (and thanks for recognizing my GA concealed carry permit too... even though it's not too easy to "conceal" while cave diving these days - especially with those darn small light cans they keep coming out with! LOL )

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    I love you guys! Y'all show up at my funeral some day when I do get shot! LOL, Cindy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy
    I totally agree! Back in those days in those parts of the woods they were lucky I guess that the land owner called the Sheriff. That's shoot first and ask questions later country. That story is at least 15 years old, maybe 20. How are your caving adventures going? Cindy
    Thank you for sharing the story. I thought it was humorous, FL statutes notwithstanding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by resolute
    even though it's not too easy to "conceal" while cave diving these days - especially with those darn small light cans they keep coming out with! LOL )

    JB
    Sure it is, clipped off in the right pocket of course.....

    (Just kidding folks....)

    I used to love the sneak diver course description on the wall behind the fill station at Lloyd's old shop.

    Drew


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    Quote Originally Posted by Limestone Cowboy
    I used to love the sneak diver course description on the wall behind the fill station at Lloyd's old shop.

    Drew
    LOL - I love his write up about trial lawyers that's posted on the walls there somewhere... it's a classic.. and definite food for thought..

    JB


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    Well I have stared down the barrel of a gun a few times and you can say you would just walk away but being out in the woods on somebody else's land you may end up buried on that land.


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    At least some mean old country landowner will usually let you do some explaining while they hold you at gunpoint. I'd rather be in that situation than the one time I had to stare down the barrel of a gun when some inner city thug kids decided to arm rob the local Cingular cell phone store while I was getting my phone upgraded. I didn't even get a new and interesting cave dive out of it!

    JB


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy
    I'm sorry I don't know the divers' names. Maybe some of our old timers do. How many couples were diving back in the days? Cindy
    I believe that was Jeff Bozanic and his girlfriend....

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