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  • No

    42 46.67%
  • Yes one minute

    23 25.56%
  • Yes two minutes

    8 8.89%
  • Yes under five minutes

    8 8.89%
  • Yes under 10 minutes

    6 6.67%
  • Yes over 10 min, care to share?

    1 1.11%
  • Have you lost in zero vis ?

    1 1.11%
  • Have you lost the line in big tunnel?

    1 1.11%
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    Default Have you ever lost the line? And if so how many minutes did it take to find it?

    Just wondering if you have ever lost the line and if so how long it took to find it?


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    You don't have enough choices. I have been off line several times in the past 43 years of cave diving. Sometimes it only took a minute to find it, the worst was over ten, but I didn't quit diving

    This is a report about the worst one: http://www.cavediver.net/forum/showt...5518-Lost-line

    I got off line in the Dominican Republic last year, in very clear water, then bubbles from my buddy in front of me caused a massive percolation (landslide) in front of me. I didn't want to go into that mess without a line, so I doubled back and found it in a couple minutes. By then he missed me, and came back through the silt shower to look for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    You don't have enough choices. I have been off line several times in the past 43 years of cave diving. Sometimes it only took a minute to find it, the worst was over ten, but I didn't quit diving

    This is a report about the worst one: http://www.cavediver.net/forum/showt...5518-Lost-line

    I got off line in the Dominican Republic last year, in very clear water, then bubbles from my buddy in front of me caused a massive percolation (landslide) in front of me. I didn't want to go into that mess without a line, so I doubled back and found it in a couple minutes. By then he missed me, and came back through the silt shower to look for me.
    plus,the people who were lost over 10 minutes and quit diving probably aren't on this forum. When the adrenalin starts pumping time sure can get skewed.

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    Forest what choices would you add? And I have to agree the last one will not be seen by anyone here. It might take me a bit to add them but will do so tonight when I get home.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tomhauburn View Post
    Forest what choices would you add? And I have to agree the last one will not be seen by anyone here. It might take me a bit to add them but will do so tonight when I get home.
    There are many ways to do it, but I would put ranges, like:
    Under 1 minute
    1 to 2 minutes
    2-5 minutes
    5-10 minutes
    over 10 minutes
    Have you lost the line more than one time?
    Have you ever lost the line in zero viz?
    Have you ever lost the line in big tunnel?

    FWIW, the lower the viz, the closer I stay to the line, and if the viz gets below 2', I never let it go. If you lost it in zero viz, it would only be pure luck to find it again

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    Added a few options...also extended the time for those of you who missed the early date. Did not change anything folks had voted on.


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    Didn't actually loose the line, but swam over the jump on hill 400 just before you get to the bats. I knew in the first 30 feet I wasn't where I belonged as I was in the skid row loop. Turned around to find my team members waiting for me at the jump. Poor jump there. Only about 12 inch jump at a turn in the main line. Won't do that again.


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    Yes, a couple of times. The first time I was gawking at the beauty of my surroundings in Little River. I lost line awareness for only a moment. When I realized I didn't know where the line was I froze. Thank goodness my buddy was paying more attention than I was. The second time was in Mexico during my final cave course. The main line was a thin, white twisted braid running very close to a white bone-like floor. Again, I was so preoccupied gawking at the beautiful cave I took my eyes off the line for only a second and the darn thing up and disappeared. It was perfectly camouflaged against the white floor. I found it only by panning my light back and forth and looking for the line's shadow. After that, if I wanted to ooh and ahh at the cave I just let the back of my hand brush against line as I swam so I always knew exactly where it was. Both were valuable experiences and I've never lost the line since.

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    yeah, not the best-structured poll.

    i've lost the line several times for less than 30 sec - like it was high and on the right and went up into a fissure and i missed that for a kick and went 'duh' and went up to follow it. or i'm busy navigating something like the half-hitch or not my fault and take a sec to get reoriented and see just where that line went since it was here a minute ago. but i don't remember ever losing it for longer than that.

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    It happens. Just remember your training. I have had to tie off to my scooter and go looking for the damn thing in a silt out.
    You use what ever tools/knowledge you have available.

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