Quote Originally Posted by phillip1 View Post
I agree with you 100% and in fact it is extremely lucky that no one on the Indiana University team has not died yet, they mostly go to Padre Nuestro which unlike El Chicho silts out really bad, not that the penetrations at El Chicho are any better but at least there is less chance of a silt out and they do not go with 8-10 people at a time or do they?
No they only go with 3 to 5 divers in Padre, but I know from real life experience, if you touch the mud bottom in Padrea you are working in zero vis. There is also a much smaller exit in Padrea (15x4ft) compared to Chicho. (50x30ft)

The University of Indiana is knowingly allowing one of their paid facility to expose young, unexperienced, academic students in an environment way beyond their training level, all to achieve a passing grade. When presented with these facts, in writing, the University simply ignored the evidence and acknowledged (in a round about way) that the faculty was an open water instructor with decades of open water instruction an was above the standards set by the acknowledged cave training agencies.