Peacock,Madison,and Troy CLOSED?!!!

[RN]

You have to be joking. There was pages of pure bile puked all over the place about the diving fee. That is why they gave up on it. It had nothing to do with anything except a bunch of disgruntled people complaining.

If all of you are willing to pay the fee, then the time to offer it up is now!

The problem with the fee change last summer was that many of us had just purchased annual passes under the old rules that the annual pass covered entry for diving. Then the state changed the rules without grandfathering in current pass holders. I would gladly pay an increased fee for diving. But I wouldn't also purchase an annual because I don't visit the parks for any other reason.


I think the issue here with many of these parks on the list is that they are frequented by annual pass holders more than daily purchasers. What the state needs to do is find out how much revenue they would lose in annual pass sales by closing these parks. They might be surprised.

Also, don't forget, this isn't the first time the state has proposed mass state park closures. This is an issue that comes up every year or so. When/if we can save Peacock, Madison, and Troy, we then need to focus on showing the state how much we use those parks throughout the year so they do not get placed on this list next time. This is an ongoing issue that needs to be continually addressed, not just an issue we become outraged at once a year.

[FW]

One problem with these sites is that we just put our annual passes in the window and there’s no way to gauge how many pass holders have visited the park.

I think that everyone (annual pass holders) should be required to fill out the paper slip at the Iron Ranger. When I enter parks that have a Ranger at the gate they charge me a $0 entry fee and I get a receipt.

I believe that is why PSP, Madison & Troy are on this list, they don’t have an accurate record of how many people are visiting these sites.

I think Billy has something here. It is the apparent low attendance that may be the reason for these sites being considered for closure.

[Superlyte27]

Well, guess i'll hold off on a renewal until this gets resolved. My annual pass is due next month. I'm not goin to pay $125ish for a family pass if the two sites I do every single weekend are closed.

Let's face it, for us locals if the cost of the annual pass were doubled, would you still buy it to cave dive? Yup, me too.

[Superlyte27]

I think Billy has something here. It is the apparent low attendance that may be the reason for these sites being considered for closure.

What if we take it upon ourselves over the next few weeks/months to just drop a slip into the iron ranger with our name, date of attendance and annual pass info, so they can start to track it.

[icestac]

I think Billy has something here. It is the apparent low attendance that may be the reason for these sites being considered for closure.

Could we setup a poll to keep count here and gather some data?

[FW]

What if we take it upon ourselves over the next few weeks/months to just drop a slip into the iron ranger with our name, date of attendance and annual pass info, so they can start to track it.

Someone would need to get the ranger's cooperation, or the slips would just get trashed.

Could we setup a poll to keep count here and gather some data?

I think Peter's idea would mean more to the State.

[Superlyte27]

I'll be at Madison and Peacock sunday. I can gingerly and diplomatically ask, if you want me to. Let me know. I'm sure the rangers are interested in things staying the way they are.

[FW]

I'll be at Madison and Peacock sunday. I can gingerly and diplomatically ask, if you want me to. Let me know. I'm sure the rangers are interested in things staying the way they are.

Talk to the NFSA people too. Kelly, Jim, and Shirley.

[Superlyte27]

I figured Kelly and Jim would chime in here. I won't do anything until You/Them say so, and admittedly, there are probably better known people who can communicate it.

[jj1987]

You have to be joking. There was pages of pure bile puked all over the place about the diving fee. That is why they gave up on it. It had nothing to do with anything except a bunch of disgruntled people complaining.

If all of you are willing to pay the fee, then the time to offer it up is now!

John, the people were upset because the annual pass they had paid for was not being honored for the activity in which they intended to use it at the time of purchase. I paid for an annual pass primarily to dive, so if that privilege becomes revoked, I'm going to be pissed.

That being said, I'd gladly pay extra $$$ for a diving pass, even though I don't dive state parks all that often.