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    Quote Originally Posted by Benderr View Post
    Someone in the know (Mat) please tell me the requirements for Emerald, and the reason that Cherokee is closed.

    Additionally, does anyone know the boat tour schedules for the past year? Is it true that there are two runs (primitive aka river and glass bottom)?
    When I was up there last (during the summer I believe), the glass boats were not running. The river tours were in full force, with 2 boats on the river all day.

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    Cherokee Sink won't reopen without permit

    State park service can't afford $200,000 for public restrooms

    By Gerald Ensley
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    Cherokee Sink is closed to public swimming — and there's no telling when it will reopen.

    The state park service-owned sinkhole was closed by state health officials March 12, after high levels of bacteria were found in the sinkhole's water. Though such closures are routine and usually temporary, the discovery revealed Cherokee Sink never received a "public bathing place" permit, as required of all swimming areas in state parks.

    The park service then applied for a bathing permit from the state Department of Health. But one of the chief requirements is permanent public restrooms; Cherokee Sink has only portable toilets. State park officials estimate public restrooms at Cherokee Sink would cost about $200,000 for construction and sewage — and they don't have the money right now.

    "Currently, there are no funds available to construct a permanent restroom facility," said Jessica Kemper, Florida Park Service information director. "Until all the requirements of the bathing permit can be met, the park service is not authorized to reopen Cherokee Sink."

    Cherokee Sink is a popular natural swimming hole across State Road 61 from Wakulla Springs State Park. It was purchased by the state in 1999 and operated since 2001 by Wakulla Springs State Park. Park manager Brian Fugate said 31,598 people visited Cherokee Sink last year.

    Cherokee Sink was owned for decades by the St. Joe Co., which did not sanction its public use — even though thousands swam there — and thus was not required to have a permit. The state licenses 200 freshwater swimming areas on lakes and rivers, including all public swimming areas in state parks.

    Bob Vincent, a Department of Health environmental administrator, said there were "hundreds of miles of rivers and lakes" without permits where people swim anyway.

    "But if you hold yourself out as a public bathing area you have to (meet the permitting rules)," Vincent said. "We're trying to make it apparent to the public which ones are sanctioned, which ones are healthier and cleaner."

    Why park officials did not previously apply for a permit for Cherokee Sink — even though the Wakulla Springs swimming area has long had one — is "a very good question," Vincent said. Vincent noted monthly water testing and the portable toilets indicated awareness of the permit's requirements.

    Kemper said the park service operates no other sinkholes "that are primarily identified as swimming destinations," and the park service was "first notified that a bathing permit was necessary" when Cherokee Sink was closed in March. She said it was the first time Cherokee Sink had been closed because of water quality since the state began operating it in 2001.

    Though she could offer no timetable, Kemper indicated Cherokee Sink would reopen.

    "(The park service's) intention for Cherokee Sink is to maintain public access for swimming," Kemper said. "To do such, funding must be obtained to construct permanent restrooms and we cannot speculate on when this money will be allocated."
    One issue with Emerald is that it's open to trimix divers only. Heading towards the Black Abyss, there's quite a bit of cave that can be seen on 32% nitrox. Beyond that, I'm not sure. I'm aware of one diver who has been rejected, who had the 100 post full cave dives and trimix cert because he didn't have a detailed logbook. I also know of another case where the log wasn't accepted at first because it was in the divers native language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj1987 View Post
    When I was up there last (during the summer I believe), the glass boats were not running. The river tours were in full force, with 2 boats on the river all day.

    One issue with Emerald is that it's open to trimix divers only. Heading towards the Black Abyss, there's quite a bit of cave that can be seen on 32% nitrox. Beyond that, I'm not sure. I'm aware of one diver who has been rejected, who had the 100 post full cave dives and trimix cert because he didn't have a detailed logbook. I also know of another case where the log wasn't accepted at first because it was in the divers native language.
    Nice, thank you.

    Any estimate on total training costs (not counting gear and expenses) from non-diver to full-cave trimix diver?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Benderr View Post
    Any estimate on total training costs (not counting gear and expenses) from non-diver to full-cave trimix diver?
    What else is there? Just training?


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    LOL, if you are local... 5k +gas
    If you are not local alot more.


    Actually... probably closer to 6k +gas & dives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Benderr View Post
    Someone in the know (Mat) please tell me the requirements for Emerald, and the reason that Cherokee is closed.
    Emerald dive procedure:

    http://www.safecavediving.com/forms/...-050508Rev.pdf

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    Wow..... So many things I could say here....

    Thanks OFG.


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    The criteria for determining a cave diver’s eligibility for the issuance of authorization to dive Emerald Sink shall be as follows:

    1. Applicant holds a full cave diving certification equivalent from one of the following certifying agencies: NACD; NSS-CDS; IANTD; TDI; or GUE. (If one holds a full cave certification equivalent from another agency not listed, further review will be required by the Panel);

    2. Certification as a Trimix Diver;

    3. A minimum of 100 logged cave dives after certification to NACD, NSS-CDS or TDI Full Cave Diver/GUE Cave II Diver/IANTD Cave Diver or IANTD Technical Cave Diver level;

    4. Deep dive experience within the past 12 months consisting of a minimum of three dives in excess of 150 feet involving staged decompression of at least 45 minutes and;

    5. DAN Master Diver insurance or the equivalent.

    Edit: Looks like OFG-1 beat me to it

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    I guess I won't be going to Emerald for awhile - I haven't seen 150' in six years.

    (And does that actually mean 45 minutes of deco?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slüdge View Post
    I guess I won't be going to Emerald for awhile - I haven't seen 150' in six years.
    What, have you lost the deep section in JB again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superlyte27 View Post
    LOL, if you are local... 5k +gas
    If you are not local alot more.


    Actually... probably closer to 6k +gas & dives.
    That's depressing, I hope its that low LOL



 

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