redundant buoyancy with a wet suit.

[stairman]

Sandys thread about a wing malfunction should be a wakeup call of the one piece of redundance many cavers dont have. Since I only dive wet I have a dual rec wing but only one inflator hose and I keep the corregated hose tucked until needed. Crawling out of a cave isnt an option in some places , ask Larry Green about the guy in Eagles Nest. I recently went sidemount but couldnt afford a dual Nomad so I rigged my old dual rec to work. Ive dove with dozens of wetsuit divers with no redundant lift. The cheap plastic and rubber that makes up the dump valves would worry me more than a bladder rupture but either one could happen. I would urge everyone to re think their kit and its redundance to lift. Murphy got Sandy and luckily he was in a rocky ststem and not over mud. Glad it worked out well.

[diveconjeff]

I started diving caves with Worthington 108's wet. I quickly found that as I approached 85 or 90 ft my single Rec wing was not enough to keep me neutral. Of coarse the deeper I went, the worse it got. I remembered in class doing an empty bladder (the air cell) exit in relativly shallow water. Those two factors combined made the addition of a dual classic (or equivalent) a no brainer.

Of coarse I am kicking myself in the butt for not getting the fabers and will really be looking to address that when SM comes into play.

[Sludge]

After reading the IRAP in question, if I dived wet I'd definitely use a dual-bladder wing, but in the meantime (until I got one), I'd carry a lift bag or SMB for emergencies.

[Meister481]

After reading the IRAP in question, if I dived wet I'd definitely use a dual-bladder wing, but in the meantime (until I got one), I'd carry a lift bag or SMB for emergencies.

After reading a certain person's story about a flooded scooter, I carry a 50# lift bag when scootering.

During my trip last week I ended up with 4 holes in my wing bladder. Luckily I waved off a day of diving wet in order to get my drysuit repaired.

[Sludge]

After reading a certain person's story about a flooded scooter, I carry a 50# lift bag when scootering.

That was a day. It wouldn't have been so bad if the negative scooter were the only problem. I was wearing a drysuit and had a large wing. The major problem was that when I started carrying the scooter nose-up the relay flooded and stuck on.

[Meister481]

That was a day. It wouldn't have been so bad if the negative scooter were the only problem. I was wearing a drysuit and had a large wing. The major problem was that when I started carrying the scooter nose-up the relay flooded and stuck on.

That sounds.... Festive.

[mdax]

My dive buddy and i got dual bladders set up in our Nomads not only because we dive wet in the heat but also because we played around with simulating a blown bladder and found that inflating our dry suits to compensate for our steel tanks was not exactly comfortable and fun...especially if the tanks are pretty full.

[stairman]

Ive never tried riding out a lift bag, sounds like fun.

[LiteHedded]

Ive never tried riding out a lift bag, sounds like fun.

or impossible. but better than crawling I suppose

[Meister481]

Not much different than using a bleach bottle for buoyancy. I did it in open water, found that putting it under my chest was the best method to keep a decent profile.