Instructor encouraging trespassing...

[stairman]

He's got hair, see it growing over and out of his ears.

[LiteHedded]

put em up! put em up!!!

[RN]

A county posted sign does not negate the fact that the legal description within the deed to the land is what determines trespass. Anyone can post a sign anywhere and call it "public land". This does not necessarily make it so. And working for a municipality, I can assure you that I have seen numerous instances where public workers placed signs where they legally did not belong. Since this post was predicated on issues of trespassing, I will be redundant and repeat again: The only way to know whether or not you are trespassing is to have knowledge of the legal description (and the grantee and grantor's intent) within the deed and the ability to determine where you are physically at "on the ground" in relation to that legal description. AND, it does not necessarily have to be a publicly recorded document, either- an oral agreement as to title to the land is all that is necessary. It's as simple as that.

So what you're saying is we need to confirm all public land by checking the legal description regardless of the public signs posted at those locations?? This implies I should now look up the legal description for every state park, every boat launch, every....

...Telford requires a boat, Eagles Nest requires 4wd...

Just to clarify, I've gotten to Telford by scootering up the river to it. And Eagle's Nest doesn't require 4wd, it just requires knowing how to get there once you're off the highway!

[SuPrBuGmAn]

You can scooter for miles, doesn't mean thats the ideal way to travel.... and you can buy a boat for less than a scooter and see a hellovalot more cave.

[RN]

True, but boat access isn't the only way. BTW, I scootered to it using the Mako I paid $800 for...

[SuPrBuGmAn]

How much does a used canoe cost?

[Herbie]

What am I going to do with BM gear, how am I supposed to dive Jugg Hole with that??? :P

...well lets see....you could have broken down the BM rig...got two PST 130's for sidemounting (just like Forrest) two AL 80's, one AL 40...donate the backplate,harness, wing, maniflod and bands to the Cave Diving Museum...kept four good regs, pressure gauges, reels, drysuit, masks, Hollis Computer, fins, wetsuits, 10 watt LED light, arrows, cookies and dive knife... to share with your buddies or to sell/trade it all. However since your not interested ...I'll just keep it then. Either way I hope to see ya at the CDF Social , maybe we can have an geezers versus whippersnappers challenge or something. With OFG on my side , victory is guaranteed for the geezers.

[SuPrBuGmAn]

CDF Social at JB? Where's it gonna end up?

[Herbie]

CDF Social at JB? Where's it gonna end up?

CDF Social at Manatee Springs State Park on August 21, Catfish Sink Pavillion. Looking forward to a good time, food, drinks , prizes, geezer vs. whippersnapper matches and of course cave diving. Anyone that wants to dive , will dive. The MSSP Rangers have verified that as teams exit the system , new teams can enter, there is no total limit for the day, just a limit to the number of divers IN the system at a time. See yall there.

[SuPrBuGmAn]

Maybe, thats quite a haul just to put you geezers in your place