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    Quote Originally Posted by KarsticGator View Post
    Let me ask you a question... what happens to the water, if Nestle doesn't bottle if from Ginnie Springs?
    It fills estuaries in the Gulf, it provides groundwater wells (how many have gone dry in Gilchrist county alone? how many went dry at Ginnie?), it prevents sinkholes (hydrostatic pressure in the karst), etc. And you are DEAD wrong about water extraction from the aquifer having no potentiometric effect (look at Pasco county, discharge at Weeki Wachee, number of sinkhole occurrences).

    But hey, water is too cheap anyway. Many think it will go to $10 a gallon in the near future.

    Keep drinking the snake oil. Tests done between Miami-Dade public water and bottled water showed that bottled water contained extremely high levels of fecal matter...So you have a trifecta...Tasty water, crap and piss...


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepSea View Post
    And you are DEAD wrong about water extraction from the aquifer having no potentiometric effect (look at Pasco county, discharge at Weeki Wachee, number of sinkhole occurrences).
    The exponential population growth of the Pinellas/Pasco/Hernando county region had absolutely nothing to do with this, correct? It was all Zephyrhills fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeepSea View Post
    But hey, water is too cheap anyway. Many think it will go to $10 a gallon in the near future.
    Really? Nestle is trading at $45 today, with water at $2/gallon. Perhaps I should go long on NSRGF!

    In all seriousness, I think many people live in a complete vacuum, and think that water bottlers are the culprit for groundwater levels falling. The real reason, is LOCAL population growth. It's not the number of bottles shipped to GA that are making wells run dry. It's irresponsible use of local, municipal water... and the increase in demand.


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    Quite a bit of that municple water usage ends up right back into the aquiffer.

    The problem with bottled water is that it gets shipped elsewhere...


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    Now we have a little agreement. I never stated that it was Zephyrhills fault -- Hell I dive with the guy that put the pipe in. It am speaking about unneeded water depletion from the aquifer. You are correct about the water moving out of state -- once it is gone we cant reclaim it for any purpose. Again, I direct you to the questions regarding well depletion; hopefully you have pondered those questions. The Ginnie wells went dry because they bottled all the water and reclaimed none!

    Take a look a Pasco, a new development (Sunwest Harbourtowne) near Wayne's World and Horseshoe and at The Jewel, Double Keyhole and Isabella has had a DRI (Developments of Regional Impact are large-scale developments that are likely to have regional effects beyond the local government jurisdiction in which they are located) approved for 3,800 homes. The USGS and developers flat out DENY that The Jewel exists.

    Recently, concrete from a sinkhole fill job was introduced into the Beacon Woods Cave System at Wayne's World (in the Bear Room). It was experienced when progressing through the Tourist Trap. Wayne's World (School Sink) is an entrance to the Beacon Woods Cave System that is a CDS owned property and I am sure this is the first time many CDS members are even hearing about this.

    Keep pulling the water out (for bottling, inconsistent growth, changing DRIs, etc) and this will also continue. Nestle has been arrogant about bottled water and now must find something to replace bottled water. Bottled water replaced flat/slumping soda sales.

    Watch this video - The Story of Bottled Water

    I carry a water filter that attaches to Nalgene bottles...It might be a hassle but it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarsticGator View Post
    The exponential population growth of the Pinellas/Pasco/Hernando county region had absolutely nothing to do with this, correct? It was all Zephyrhills fault?

    Really? Nestle is trading at $45 today, with water at $2/gallon. Perhaps I should go long on NSRGF!

    In all seriousness, I think many people live in a complete vacuum, and think that water bottlers are the culprit for groundwater levels falling. The real reason, is LOCAL population growth. It's not the number of bottles shipped to GA that are making wells run dry. It's irresponsible use of local, municipal water... and the increase in demand.


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    Aquifers are not the only thing to consider. I believe that a large portion of plastic, disposable drinking water bottles are not recycled, but are thrown into landfills, sinkholes, ditches, the ocean, etc. I cringe when I see people tossing recyclable goods in the trash. I used to drink quite a bit of bottled water, and my boss was always taking my bottles and throwing them in the trash for me, even when I put my name on them, and asked her not to, making it clear that I kept the bottles for reuse. Left to my own devices, I reused the bottles until they sprung a leak, then recycled them properly.


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    and the plastic bottles make great puppy chew toys..keeps him busy for hours! unfortunately, now he's big enough that when he sees a water bottle on the table or counter, he assumes it's his to chew!

    ps: we buy bottled water, then refill with water from our home purifyer (until they get holes or the dog chews them, then they get recycled).

    skip

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    recycling is hard.

    living in the sticks, until last year if we wanted to recycle we had to take a 2 hour round trip. now we can recycle certain things for pick up, but not cardboard. i mean, geez, cardboard is not recycleable here?! at least paper is. and plastics 1 & 2, but no other numbers.

    anyway, so we end up doing more repurposing. old newspapers go to the animal shelter, old magazines go to the nursing home, etc.

    proud cave tourist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepSea View Post
    Watch this video - The Story of Bottled Water
    I linked to that video on Facebook - you're not on FB, are you?

    Anyway, thanks for the link.

    Whoever said money can't buy love never bought a puppy.

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    No I am not...I had this on my home page (http://www.tampadiving.com) and linked it on Twitter. It really is a great video.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slüdge View Post
    I linked to that video on Facebook - you're not on FB, are you?

    Anyway, thanks for the link.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skip View Post
    we buy bottled water, then refill with water from our home purifyer (until they get holes or the dog chews them, then they get recycled).
    Try Nalgene bottles...you can even get BPA free ones now.



 

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