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    Default Hart rules/conditions..

    I just read a post on Walter's site, stating that you can dive guideless at Little Hart if you have Abe Davis/Gold Wakulla and DAN Master ins........true?
    Also saw viz. reported to be in the 30 ft. range, w/ripping current for the first 300' or so....true?
    Thanks, just need to know the situation before coming up for the CDS workshop.
    I've been in through the Lagoon three times, btw...if that matters.
    Any current map available, btw?


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    Quote Originally Posted by phreaticus View Post
    I just read a post on Walter's site, stating that you can dive guideless at Little Hart if you have Abe Davis/Gold Wakulla and DAN Master ins........true?
    Also saw viz. reported to be in the 30 ft. range, w/ripping current for the first 300' or so....true?
    Thanks, just need to know the situation before coming up for the CDS workshop.
    I've been in through the Lagoon three times, btw...if that matters.
    Any current map available, btw?
    I have always heard Hart to be Guide only with all of those requirements.


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    Quote Originally Posted by phreaticus View Post
    I just read a post on Walter's site, stating that you can dive guideless at Little Hart if you have Abe Davis/Gold Wakulla and DAN Master ins........true?
    Also saw viz. reported to be in the 30 ft. range, w/ripping current for the first 300' or so....true?
    Thanks, just need to know the situation before coming up for the CDS workshop.
    I've been in through the Lagoon three times, btw...if that matters.
    Any current map available, btw?
    Come on down! There will be free diving at Hart during the NSS-CDS workshop. I have heard some rumors of guideless diving at Hart, but I never saw anything in writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    Come on down! There will be free diving at Hart during the NSS-CDS workshop. I have heard some rumors of guideless diving at Hart, but I never saw anything in writing.
    'Free diving' (as in 'no charge') or 'guide free diving' (as in 'without having my hand held')? I'm just trying to be clear here because, if it's truly 'guide free' that would be a major change (for the better in my opinion) in policy.

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    I have heard they are looking into revising the rules on Little Hart dives, I thought I saw something in writing but cannot find it. I'll bet they want all the dives Sunday to be guided though.


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    Default Hart rules/conditions..

    Not interested in a guided dive free or not.


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    What's so different about diving with a guide vs. diving with any other buddy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slüdge View Post
    What's so different about diving with a guide vs. diving with any other buddy?
    System I've never dove, a guide I might not even know, possibly different views on decompression (Bühlmann vs VPM vs Ratio Deco or combos), gear configuration (hopefully no mixed teams?), different hand signals, unknown medical history, differing views on a buddy's responsibilities, etc. Also getting some of these guides to come out and dive (unpaid at that) isn't an easy task, so at times it can almost feel as if the system is practically closed to diving. Not wanting to debate the safety aspect, I just plain have more fun diving with a crew I'm used to diving with, because we have a system that "clicks" for us.

    I'll still dive it guided, it certainly beats a closed system, but I would be careful to choose a guide that either I know, or a trusted buddy recommends.

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    It's a cave. You go diving, you get out. It's not like it's 300' deep with six hours of deco. Average depth is something like sixty feet.

    If you're DIR and not allowed to dive with regular folk, I can see a problem, but just go diving. It's a beautiful cave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slüdge View Post
    It's a cave. You go diving, you get out. It's not like it's 300' deep with six hours of deco. Average depth is something like sixty feet.

    If you're DIR and not allowed to dive with regular folk, I can see a problem, but just go diving. It's a beautiful cave.
    I plan to go. You asked what's different, and those are issues I've heard of with a guide system. None of them are deal breakers, although the scheduling certainly does limit the flexibility of scheduling for a trip. Very excited about diving it...all of our family reunions were held there, as well as several camping trips when I was younger. Still remember sneaking off on the boardwalk to make out so parents wouldn't catch us

    Anyways, I'm excited to get to see what's beyond the snorkel zone!

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