Detailed Ginnie map
Where does one get the map of Ginnie that shows all of the lines, permanent and otherwise? It seems that only instructors have it? is this on purpose? I have the one that Ginnie sells and I have been marking in the areas that I've dove. Any info on this super secret highly detailed map would be helpful.
I got mine from the NACD. Not cheap, but great for planning.
That's the map Jeff Hancock created. Debra Green has them, email her at [email protected]Originally Posted by the dude
The one map that Jeff Hancock did, a while back, shows the first few thousand feet, with line placements. I dont know where you can get a copy of that one though.
The one Steve Berman did, is higher quality in terms of cartography and detail, doesn't show the lines, but his 2 maps show much more of the cave than the Hancock map.
If you interested in seeing the first 2000' of the cave, then try to get a copy of the Hancock map.
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The "super secret" map isn't really a secret. It's produced by Jeff Hancock. Hancock has an interesting reputation. Word on the street is, either he's really rude to you, or he loves you. He doesn't like me at all, which is odd, since I've gone out of my way to return a Z knife and a reel that he lost in the cave.
His map is the best yet of Ginnie. It's available from a few sources, including Jeff himself, but it's well over $100, and so a lot of divers choose not to buy it.
Soon, there is supposed to be a map of Ginnie that is made by combining both halves of the Berman map (the one that Ginnie sells), and adding on survey data from the further reaches of the cave (not on the Hancock map). When it's available, it will be a good replacement for the Hancock map, but if you have the money to spend, the Hancock map is a really nice map.
You can get it from some divers websites, torrent sites, rapidshare, or Hancock himself, I guess it depends on how honest you feel
Also don't buy into the hype of "secret" passages in Ginnie. There's not any in the first 2000+ft of the cave, I've heard rumors of them in the 3400+ range where I haven't spent much time. Other than map1, the heinkle is at 3100ft, shortly before that is mainland, before that are the insulation room and sweet surprise around 2400ft (ish), and the river intrusion rooms (not sure if those are on map 1). That's about all you're swimming to in Ginnie.
Last edited by jj1987; 03-24-2010 at 10:41 PM.
I've got one of Hancock's paper beta versions before he started mass producing them. Paid him $25 at Ginnie for a copy ran off at a grapics place. Sweet.
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Re: Detailed Ginnie map
Jeff put a lot of time and effort into his fantastic map. It is also copyright protected. Please purchace it from an approved vendor.
Ditto for the Hancock map. Best one around. Hangs on my office wall for dive planning behind closed doors.
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I picked up a copy of Jeff's map from Jeff, in 2005. It's numbered and signed to verify authenticity. I had seen him there for four years at that point (I started diving / cave diving in 2001) and each time I saw him he had a fiberglass tape and a slate when he was entering or exiting the water. He literally put years of his life into that map, it shows back to 4170 ft straight back down the main line and 4200 ft into mainland. As was noted, it is copyright protected. Give Deb Green a call to buy it - the detail is worth the price, and it's nicely laminated (as cave maps should be) so it will be around for a while.
Mark
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