Does Devil's make people rude??

[RN]

I have one comment to this thread as a still in training cave diver. It’s about the hiding/covering/shutting of lights several of you mention. Personally, I find it confusing and I wish people weren’t doing it – at least not in narrow passages. Sure, direct/cover the light not to blind me but please don’t play hide&spook.

I always try be particularly courteous towards other divers on entry/exit because I have snotty ears that can easily transform me into a major plug especially if I have to struggle head down with current and reel in places like Eye/Ear. My task – and I truly doubt anyone’s who is struggling with their reel and progress in general - is made any easier when I think I have assessed the situation, and all of a sudden a ninja moves in the darkness. You think you are invisible but usually you are noticed in the most inconvenient moment.

It’s also annoying when I already have seen 3 divers that I wanted to wait to exit, and only 2 came out. One sneaky basterd shuts light, and now I don’t know what he is up to when he vanishes. And as if I don’t have enough performance anxiety from MY instructor concentrating on my lameness!

When we have to share the cave, I would like other divers to indicate what they are up to rather than play games where you know what is going on but I have to keep on guessing.

I don't know how anyone else does it, but I'm usually not seen at all. I don't hide if there's nowhere to hide, so you'll see me in narrow passages. And I usually hide when I first see the glow of other divers entering, way before I even see them or their lights. I also don't move until after they have passed. Apparently I hide well since no one mentioned seeing me at the Park Bench on Saturday...

[icestac]

When I pee I also stay frozen - too afraid that thing will come off, and I cannot return signals at that moment either. Is it rude?

It is when you are leading the dive... before I knew better, Sam and I would be going along at a comfortable pace when all of a sudden I would find myself swimming right up to him. Come to find out, he was taking a potty break

[alias]

When I pee I also stay frozen - too afraid that thing will come off, and I cannot return signals at that moment either. Is it rude?

I am not afraid of the thing () coming off but I have to stay still too. We have a signal for it before commencing. Yet, I know couple of guys who need to hold onto something when peeing. When there is nothing to grab they will hold onto buddies. I know couple of other guys who find THAT somewhat uncomfortable, bordering on rude

[BabyDuck]

it helps me to nudge my head against a wall. that's why my hood might have some smutz, not because i rammed into something. i dunno why. next psychological poll, anyone? 'what helps you pee'?

[scububa]

... I know couple of guys who need to hold onto something when peeing. When there is nothing to grab they will hold onto buddies. ...

Nah, that's just too easy

[Sludge]

Can we take this thread somewhere else? TMI!

[FW]

Can we take this thread somewhere else? TMI!

Maybe RN is right, Devil's does make people rude

[fixxervi6]

it helps me to nudge my head against a wall. that's why my hood might have some smutz, not because i rammed into something. i dunno why. next psychological poll, anyone? 'what helps you pee'?

I just have to stop swimming for a bit and at least get the process started

My buddy was the same way so we came up with a hand signal for "hold on gotta pee"

Now I just hold it until I'm either drifting with the flow, stopping to pick up or put in a reel, or dropping/picking up a stage, gives me a moment were I don't swim to get the process started.

[ssmdive]

Apparently I hide well since no one mentioned seeing me at the Park Bench on Saturday...

Just because it was not mentioned, does not mean no one saw you

It just means there was a bunch of other stuff to watch and discuss

[Cave Ranger]

Ya see? This is where my aforementioned A##less neoprene chaps are a Godsend. After my last dive I had several one doller bills stuffed in my belt so I must have had a ninja Shirley encounter.