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    Hello, I am looking for maps from the 60s, 70s, and early 80s of the following caves. The purpose is to document the original exploration members and cartographers. It's for a project I am doing for the Museum. A scan of the map will do I don't really need the original map (that would be cool though) it needs the date, who did the map and who the explorers are. Please email me at cindyb3007@yahoo.com or PM me on this forum. Thank you for any help you can offer.
    Ginnie Spings
    Devils Cave system
    Alachua aka Mill Creek
    Hart
    Little River
    Peacock Springs
    Bonnet Springs
    Charles Springs
    Lafayette Blue
    Anderson
    Edwards
    Emerald
    Indian
    Telford
    Madison Blue
    Royal Spring
    Jug Hole
    Ruth Springs
    Cathedral aka Ghoul
    Cow
    Gator Hole
    Jackson Blue
    I have a lot of info on some of these caves, a few I can't find any info. The oldest one wins. I'll give a free book to the oldest map that is sent to or I am given information on for each cave. Cindy

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    Email sent.


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    I have redrawn maps of
    Bonnet- skiles/long
    peacock- smith/Johnson/Hillier/Smith/Holtzendorf/Exley
    Orange Grove, 7Sep69 - Maegerlein

    A bunch of others, I'll send you a PM when I have more time.

    J


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    My guess is, Mike Poucher would have most of the early maps of those places.

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    Contact Mike. I have copies of the original survey data from Jackson Blue, Twin, and Hole in the Wall. It's amazing how they came up with the maps they did from that data!

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    I am going to be talking with both Mike and Wes over the next couple weeks. I was hoping to find some in private collections. I know one or two who have mapped caves and never published the maps. It was more common in the past. I am still looking. I already found two and have been sent one that predates the common ones. Besides, Wes and Mike will all the contests. It's time to give the other guys a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rchrds View Post
    I have redrawn maps of
    Bonnet- skiles/long
    peacock- smith/Johnson/Hillier/Smith/Holtzendorf/Exley
    Orange Grove, 7Sep69 - Maegerlein

    A bunch of others, I'll send you a PM when I have more time.

    J
    Great, I am really happy you replied. my home email is cindyb3007@yahoo.com
    Thanks J, Cindy

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    BONNET

    Undated

    Surveyors:
    Bob Bastion, Lamar Hires, Woody Jasper, Mark Long, Wes Skiles


    MADISON BLUE

    1979
    Survey by CDS, NSS
    J. Zumrick, C. Smith, P. Deloach, W. Skiles, C. Pitcairn, C. Stevens, R Rodgers, J Townes, B. Stevens, T. Allen, K Hillier, P. Smith, P. Meng, B Warner, B Saunders, J. Stone, J. Lockwood, P. Prust, J. Hall, S. Exley, T. Leithauser


    PEACOCK

    1977 by Sheck Exley
    Survey by CDS, NSS
    C.W. Smith, K.E. Hiller, L.S. Holtzendorff, R. Johnson, P.W. Smith, I.S. Exley


    MANATEE

    Date unreadable
    J. Zumrick, T. Young, I. Young, R Goodman, K. Sullivan, S. Exley, M. Eckoff


    BLUE HOLE / JUG SPRING

    Undated
    Survey:
    Don Landis, Ron Simmons, Wes Skiles

    Have info on the following:

    DEVIL’S EYE
    1979

    HOLE in the WALL
    1978

    TELFORD
    1978

    EMERALD
    1981

    JACKSON BLUE
    1980

    GREEN SINK
    1978


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    Hey Cindy,

    Ya know, in this day of internet connections and ease of putting stuff up, it'd be really nice to have a digital museum. Basically, a bunch of photographs of equipment, plus a few scans of these older maps. It'd be fascinating to see how far various systems had been pushed back then. When I look at some of the old line in Manatee, I'm just amazed that they got back there with such limited gear.

    It would also be a nice way to generate publicity for the museum itself.

    I'll offer the first $100 towards setting such a site up - and I'll offer to keep paying it every year for as long as the site stays up.

    Regards,

    Andrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by aainslie View Post
    Hey Cindy,

    Ya know, in this day of internet connections and ease of putting stuff up, it'd be really nice to have a digital museum. Basically, a bunch of photographs of equipment, plus a few scans of these older maps. It'd be fascinating to see how far various systems had been pushed back then. When I look at some of the old line in Manatee, I'm just amazed that they got back there with such limited gear.

    It would also be a nice way to generate publicity for the museum itself.

    I'll offer the first $100 towards setting such a site up - and I'll offer to keep paying it every year for as long as the site stays up.

    Regards,

    Andrew
    I was thinking the same thing. A simple wordpress site would make this goal pretty easy. You could "tag" each post with let's say "Devils" and then when a user clicks devils they can see all the other posts with that same tag. You can edit the post dates to reflect the dates these items were created (at least the maps or gear), and then those tags would even show a chronological list.

    Would be a pretty simple integration with Walter's site, too, if he were willing. When you click a cave, you could then choose "View History" and be directed to the museum's website, to a search page that shows all of the data for that specific cave.

    Wordpress supports photos, videos, etc pretty easily, and I think it'd be a great way to get the content online in a USABLE manner.

    I would donate my time to help with this, be it setting up the site or scanning things as needed.

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