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  1. #91
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    If I get time I'll do up a rough sketch, there are some parts in there that get extremely gnarly, those first restrictions are just tight but are on a nice flat bedding plane, there are some spots further in where the floor gets all lumpy with parts sticking up, I've got some rough spots on my wetsuit now and like a bruise under my left rib from pushing over some of those, I need to go on a diet

    I spoke with Wayne and he was saying Wes and Woody did some of that back in the day and that I wasn't going to get very far because they were skinny, little does he know fat squishes.

    I got woody on the phone and described where I was at, he said he laid that line 15 years ago or so.

    FYI the cart was in real bad shape, I think someone was trying to haul too much crap with it on the way back a wheel broke. We told Wayne and between the TX boys and Amigo's we'll have a new cart there tomorrow thats got a higher weight load than the previous one so hopefully it will hold up better.

    We are learning "the dance" of the restrictions so we are getting in easier and faster each time and back out easier and faster as well, right now my limitation is gas as we turn BEFORE I 3rds but as we learn how to pass certain areas it gets "easier" as we dont' have to sit and study the spot first if that makes sense, its a bummer we have to leave this week :-(

    My buddy and I are joking that we are out here to cave dive but we are just caving instead.

    There are several "holes" all over the place, we just don't have enough time to check them all out!!! People need to be careful, I was in a spot where I could not turn around and I could not go backwards as the tank bottoms were getting caught, I had to take them off and drag them out as I wiggled backwards, all while staying on the line

    For you skinny guys maybe this stuff isn't a big deal but we are some texas boys pushing 220lbs or so


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    Ive been thru the second restriction, silver sand I think, but my buddy couldnt fit so we turned the dive. Havent been to the end yet and probably wont get the chance till end of season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stairman View Post
    Ive been thru the second restriction, silver sand I think, but my buddy couldnt fit so we turned the dive. Havent been to the end yet and probably wont get the chance till end of season.
    The second restriction is NOTHING like the stuff I'm refering to above, my buddy and I cleared the diamond sands while carrying a stage without missing a beat or even slowing down. The restrictions I'm refering too your not going to get into it with a nomad on unless your REALLY REALLY REALLY skinny and have an interest in destroying year gear.


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    Fixxer,

    Marchand and I replaced the line two weeks ago. We'll be back with a compass and wetnotes this Sunday, to update the rough sketch we made after the last dive.

    Stairman, the restriction is "diamond sands," and the trick is to lift up your left tank, or turn on your side just a bit to clear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JahJahwarrior View Post
    Fixxer,

    Marchand and I replaced the line two weeks ago. We'll be back with a compass and wetnotes this Sunday, to update the rough sketch we made after the last dive.

    Stairman, the restriction is "diamond sands," and the trick is to lift up your left tank, or turn on your side just a bit to clear.
    I saw your line, looks good! I took a big rock into the restriction to get it out of the way, going in the line was RIGHT where the good spot in the first "room" was :-P so now going in its off to the right a little so when you go from that first "room" into the bedding plane the line will be on your right instead of straight through the room.

    If you guys replaced ALL of the line then you relined parts of it with really old yellow stuff


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    Quote Originally Posted by stairman View Post
    Ive been thru the second restriction, silver sand I think, but my buddy couldnt fit so we turned the dive. Havent been to the end yet and probably wont get the chance till end of season.
    You have about another 75 feet to go to get to the jump we are refering to. Take the jump and go in another 25 feet. Then you will see the no mount restriction. It is tight -- real tight. You will have to trun your head sidways on parte of it to get in.


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    Nah, but we'll probably fix those last bits this trip. We'd heard a lot of conflicting reports, and didn't want to push our luck. Marchand actually did most of the work, I stayed behind because a lot of reports said that it was not big enough for more than one person. Now we know more about it, and will hopefully get a decent survey and finish the line replacement before it closes.

    What lock was on the cart? Last time we were there, somehow the nice brass one had gone missing. We left a silver combo lock there with the ranger incase the brass one didn't makeit's way back to the cart, but never heard if it had reappeared or not.

    Similarly, we found the cart missing a lynchpin on a side, we repaired it with cave line. The cart sees a lot of abuse, unfortunately.

    I'm hoping/assuming it will get removed during the non diving season, so it doesn't get destroyed by swimmers?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JahJahwarrior View Post
    Fixxer,

    Marchand and I replaced the line two weeks ago. We'll be back with a compass and wetnotes this Sunday, to update the rough sketch we made after the last dive.

    Stairman, the restriction is "diamond sands," and the trick is to lift up your left tank, or turn on your side just a bit to clear.
    Nice job on the new line. If you get time you might want to replace the line on the right side of the tee. It is old and Woody Jasper said he put it in there 15 years ago. We probabaly will not have time to reline it. We are just getting to really know the cave or as my British friends say we are still in the "fuckabout" stage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JahJahwarrior View Post
    Nah, but we'll probably fix those last bits this trip. We'd heard a lot of conflicting reports, and didn't want to push our luck. Marchand actually did most of the work, I stayed behind because a lot of reports said that it was not big enough for more than one person. Now we know more about it, and will hopefully get a decent survey and finish the line replacement before it closes.

    What lock was on the cart? Last time we were there, somehow the nice brass one had gone missing. We left a silver combo lock there with the ranger incase the brass one didn't makeit's way back to the cart, but never heard if it had reappeared or not.

    Similarly, we found the cart missing a lynchpin on a side, we repaired it with cave line. The cart sees a lot of abuse, unfortunately.

    I'm hoping/assuming it will get removed during the non diving season, so it doesn't get destroyed by swimmers?

    Two people can fit in the area that the new line is in. Need to be careful of the floor. There is clay that looks like rock.

    The brass lock is back. The new cart is rated for 1000 lbs. The old one was rated for 600 lbs. Hopefully it will last a little longer. I will ask Wayne to reomove the cart during the non-diving season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JahJahwarrior View Post
    Nah, but we'll probably fix those last bits this trip. We'd heard a lot of conflicting reports, and didn't want to push our luck. Marchand actually did most of the work, I stayed behind because a lot of reports said that it was not big enough for more than one person. Now we know more about it, and will hopefully get a decent survey and finish the line replacement before it closes.

    What lock was on the cart? Last time we were there, somehow the nice brass one had gone missing. We left a silver combo lock there with the ranger incase the brass one didn't makeit's way back to the cart, but never heard if it had reappeared or not.

    Similarly, we found the cart missing a lynchpin on a side, we repaired it with cave line. The cart sees a lot of abuse, unfortunately.

    I'm hoping/assuming it will get removed during the non diving season, so it doesn't get destroyed by swimmers?
    by last bits you mean the T to the right?



 

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