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    Quote Originally Posted by sdenney View Post
    The NACD Wakulla Bronze safety award is either 100 safe full cave dives or 100 hours (completed during safe full cave dives).
    So you're saying the dozens and dozens of unsafe dives I've made don't count?

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    So the CDS Change the Award requirements again, I guess they didn’t want to announce the change because of the controversy it created the last time the BOD changed the requirements and a lot of the Award Recipients requested to be removed from the list of Award Holders. (Great Transparency)

    Paul,
    Have a Look at the NACD Wakulla Award, it is held in the same regard as the CDS Safety Awards and it goes by bottom time in the cave zone or number of dives.

    What’s ironic is that NACD does not have a CCR-Cave program and the NSS-CDS does but the NACD Safety Award seams better tailored for CCR Divers where the NSS-CSD Safety Award is more geared to OC Divers. (Things that make you go Hummmm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyf View Post
    So the CDS Change the Award requirements again, I guess they didn’t want to announce the change because of the controversy it created the last time the BOD changed the requirements and a lot of the Award Recipients requested to be removed from the list of Award Holders. (Great Transparency)
    It isn't a new change, it has been on the website for a couple of years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyf View Post
    What’s ironic is that NACD does not have a CCR-Cave program and the NSS-CDS does but the NACD Safety Award seams better tailored for CCR Divers where the NSS-CSD Safety Award is more geared to OC Divers. (Things that make you go Hummmm)
    Not intending to delve into the nuances of agency politicking... Repetition is the cornerstone of progressions of training and learning. There are methods to 'cheat' systems a number of ways - however the intent remains the same - recognize experience.

    I would hope - that both agencies require an instructors sign off on any award application, and I would HOPE, that those instructors would either have actually gone on a fun dive, or by trusted proxy inquired about skill and competence before putting their name on a form...

    Until recently finding the wonders of Xerotherm Artic, I had been been tracking mostly 1 dive = 60-90 mins... Personally - I'm at 53 dives and 77:25 hours and in no rush...


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    Does the training dives beyond full cave count.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CAVDVR View Post
    Does the training dives beyond full cave count.
    As long as they're in a cave.

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    So what would the NAUI equivalent of "full" be?

    Are these awards really meaningful?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmdive View Post
    So what would the NAUI equivalent of "full" be?

    Are these awards really meaningful?
    For the Abe Davis award, I've been told I can accept NAUI Cave II.

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