Toys and Notes left in the cave

[Kelly Jessop]

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[FW]

I am against junk in caves, but since the Bats in Devil's Eye are on the map, and used as a navigation reference, it might disorient someone if they were removed.

[Kelly Jessop]

I am against junk in caves, but since the Bats in Devil's Eye are on the map, and used as a navigation reference, it might disorient someone if they were removed.

There are some things that have navigational and historic value. I agree with comments about the bats, clothes hanger,stop light,spg, trash room etc..... My issue is with the introduction of new items,or copy cats acts;but the latest of notes being left at Devils with potentially urgent messages which point to a dire situation. I am all about having fun,and a good time,but I think some things need to be left out of the cave.

[mag3]

I am against junk in caves, but since the Bats in Devil's Eye are on the map, and used as a navigation reference, it might disorient someone if they were removed.

I would ask then that the above choice be a 3rd option in your poll (ie. "Remove all but historically placed/documented items" - eg. "Bats," "Coathangers" etc.)..

Thanks.

[FW]

I would ask then that the above choice be a 3rd option in your poll (ie. "Remove all but historically placed/documented items" - eg. "Bats," "Coathangers" etc.)..

Thanks.

The coat hangers are a little different, they are used to hold the line to some lead weights in the middle of the tunnel.

[Ben M]

Just say no....to cave trash. Why do we need to mess everything up?

[Squirrel Girl]

I would say playing games in u/w caves is a bad thing. But a very few caves that "toys" isn't a bad thing in my idea. I absolutely agree that we don't want trash cluttering up our caves, but it seems in the dry cave community, there's maybe one or two caves per state (or every 3rd state) that have some mud sculptures in one room. Those seem kinda fun to me. But I certainly don't want to encourage a lot of stuff like that.

[ssmdive]

I think things that are not damaging and do not pose a risk to others are fine. The note left in Devils was not a good idea... But a note saying, "Elvis has left the cave!" I personally would find funny.

I didn't vote since there was no third option for "Funny as long as it is not dangerous or destructive."

[FW]

I think things that are not damaging and do not pose a risk to others are fine. The note left in Devils was not a good idea... But a note saying, "Elvis has left the cave!" I personally would find funny.

I didn't vote since there was no third option for "Funny as long as it is not dangerous or destructive."

But you might not find it funny if there were dozens, or even hundreds of that type of note cluttering up the lines.

[MORGAN]

I don't think that we ought to be putting anything in the caves except line. The few historic things like the bats are OK, but in general the less stuff the better. A large part of the beauty of caves is that they're a natural phenomenon, (mostly) free from clutter, trash, and other human-caused detritus.

Mike