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    Smile Madison 10/15/09

    So with all of the recent "Interest in Madison Blue", I wanted to check it out for myself. I've never been there as it used to be closed when I had more opportunities in that area. So when my buddy asked yesterday where we were diving on Thursday (yea, I don't plan much), I asked if he was up for the drive to Madison. We discussed a couple of plans and would head out early the next morning.

    We got there and there was one team/class ahead of us and another pulled up as we were gearing up. We were planning on entering through the rabbit hole and heading to Mount Offshoot and beyond. A quick check with the other groups and we found out no one else was headed that way and then we entered the water. Vis was great, well at least in front of us and sometimes behind. I was the trailing diver as I didn't know the system. The flow was not too bad as I easily made progress swimming against it. We got to the mount offshoot and installed the jump line. As we disappeared into the tiny tunnel I wondered why everyone was wanting to take a scooter through here. In fact even on the goldline everything was much dustier and smaller than I had imagined. I was feeling a little embarrassed at the silt that was beginning to get kicked up. I'm not the cleanest diver, but I like to think I do reasonably well. Well, it wasn't until a very short while later that my buddy stopped starring at the tunnel ahead. I swam a bit closer to see what was up. He was backmount and I was sidemount. From my perspective, at least a diver's length away, I don't think I could have gone through there without dragging through the silt, but I know my buddy would have been plowing it up with his taller profile. Disappointed, we turned and exited in less than stellar vis back to the jump. Once on the main line vis was instantly good again and we continued upstream and did the RotoRooter tunnel. This was a neat little passage with some pretty cave to look at. On the way out the vis was down a bit from our first jump, until half hitch or so when it was crystal again. Beyond there, we detoured to the Banana, Monkey, Godzilla circuit since we had plenty of gas from the earlier change of plans and I wanted to see this area anyways. We then exited the cave in the main basin and completed a short deco. I had 161 minutes underwater time and a max depth of 88 ft. All and all I really enjoyed the dive and think that it is a good system. I look forward to heading back sometime.

    After surfacing and discussing what I saw with my buddy, this must be remnants from the last flood. Has anyone been back toward Rocky Horror since the last round? How is it? Seems like the silt is about 1-2 ft deeper in places than it used to be and even on the goldline there are silt mounts in places that were previously clean limestone, at least according to someone who has been there before. We decided one dive was plenty and hit the road even though we had planned for 2. Oh, well back to local haunts on/off the Chipola for now.

    And dang it, I forgot to even bring my camera for topside shots. What a pretty basin.


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    Great report, Ben! Thanks for sharing, and glad you had a good dive!

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    Enjoyed the read Ben, Madison is fun


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    Good report!!

    As for the scooters, way back when... (like 10 years ago) the flow at Madison was definitely kicking, you could have never made it to Mount's w/o stages and swimming your butt off, it was a lot of pull and pull, very little gliding... kinda like Jackson used to be... way back when...

    You would scooter to just before Potters' Delight (I wished I had a scooter back then, believe me!) clip the scooters and stages by the slate there on the line,and then proceed on to Rocky Horror and beyond...very cool and a lot of fun.

    Additionally the viz at Madison has gone down quite a bit, used to be Ginnie clear in there (occassionally still is...).

    Glad you enjoyed the dive.

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    We went through Potter's Delight and Rocky Horror on 9-24. All seemed as it should; if anything I thought it looked horribly "wallowed out". We were able to pass through with only minor delay.

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    Thanks, guys and gals. Interesting. If what you say is true, I have to think we were in the wrong place, but looking at the map I'm not sure any of the other passages make sense either.

    Jerry, were you sidemount or backmount? I could have pushed through (I was sidemount), but my wing would have been on the ceiling and my belly in the silt. I'm not a big guy, either. We didn't consider it as my buddy was diving backmount.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben M View Post
    Thanks, guys and gals. Interesting. If what you say is true, I have to think we were in the wrong place, but looking at the map I'm not sure any of the other passages make sense either.

    Jerry, were you sidemount or backmount? I could have pushed through (I was sidemount), but my wing would have been on the ceiling and my belly in the silt. I'm not a big guy, either. We didn't consider it as my buddy was diving backmount.
    That sounds like the next jump after Potters, just before the dropoff. I made that same mistake once. A good way to tell is the correct passage has a slate, with a note on it, with IN/OUT indicators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben M View Post
    .................................................. ................................................Je rry, were you sidemount or backmount? I could have pushed through (I was sidemount), but my wing would have been on the ceiling and my belly in the silt. I'm not a big guy, either. We didn't consider it as my buddy was diving backmount.
    I was in back mount with a stage; my buddy was on a Meg with two sidemounted bailouts. Potter's Delight and Rocky Horror are circular shaped tunnels (generally speaking) and in my opinion, makes back mount the best option. Nowhere in there is it "belly and back" anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW View Post
    That sounds like the next jump after Potters, just before the dropoff. I made that same mistake once. A good way to tell is the correct passage has a slate, with a note on it, with IN/OUT indicators.
    Interesting that they would have missed the right jump, since these days they are well marked, not like "way back when" they used to be just jumps and you actually had to pay attention.... (yes, I think it's not necessarily a good thing that they are all marked with names on the arrows...)

    But anyhow, yes it seems they missed their turn, Mount's is big enough to scooter through...if you were so inclined...

    Dive safe,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I was in back mount with a stage; my buddy was on a Meg with two sidemounted bailouts. Potter's Delight and Rocky Horror are circular shaped tunnels (generally speaking) and in my opinion, makes back mount the best option. Nowhere in there is it "belly and back" anymore.

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