Full Cave & Tec Training

[MORGAN]

Yeah, I'm trained in technical diving. It's called cave diving.

This is my feeling as well, though I think this poll is interesting to see what other training people have in addition to full cave.

Every technical diving certification except cave can be gotten from some instructors without ever having to let go of the anchor line.

Well, maybe not DPV...

Mike

[JahJahwarrior]

Why don't instructors add AN/DP to full cave courses? Two birds with one stone.

[John Long]

Yeah, I'm trained in technical diving. It's called cave diving.

In my day, the things you learn in "Advanced Nitrox" and "Decompression Procedures" were taught during cave training. Of course, I learned decompression diving in NASDS Open Water.

Absolutely, Basic classes were taught differently in years past.

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I've always heard that cavern/cave IS technical diving. This came up at an NACD meeting awhile back when I suggested separating "recreational" cave diving from "technical" cave diving. I was roundly and soundly thrashed for entertaining the idea that any aspect of cavern/cave could be considered recreational.

I think the poll is not interested in such distinctions, rather simply wanting to know what tec training in addition to cave.

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[atedeschi]

the reason is because if you are doing full cave types of dive, you should probably be at least deco trained or adv nitro.deco. Most caves if you are diving to 3rds you are going to run into deco, yes there are exceptions. it came up in discussion and was said that if you are full cave you should at least have deco procedures.

[mattmexico]

yo

There are areas such as in Mexico where the caves are quite shallow and the procedures and techniques of technical diving in terms of deep diving do not apply at most of the diving is done here.

During training lectures and discussion is included in the area of decompression diving but actual decompression dives are not done, or seldom done.

The technical diver program is used to either develope technical diver skill (vertical diving) in the cave or bring existing technical diving skill into the cave (horizontal) environment.

greetings
Matt

[SMB]

Hi Matt,
Sorry mate I do not agree with you.

There are areas such as in Mexico where the caves are quite shallow and the procedures and techniques of technical diving in terms of deep diving do not apply at most of the diving is done here.

Yes for the most part the coastal caves of Quintana Roo are relatively shallow but long dive times still incurr deco penalties.
I personally do many dives here that require deco and so do many others.

As for the rest of Mexico I think there may be one or 2 deep caves that may require a little bit of deco to dive

During training lectures and discussion is included in the area of decompression diving but actual decompression dives are not done, or seldom done.

I include a decompression dive in all my full cave classes
I also know that other Instructors do as well
In my personal opinion as well as the lecture / discussion you actually have to get in the water and put the theory into practice
In fact I am going to Naharon tomorrow to complete the Deco dive for the cave class I am currently teaching

[rchrds]

I've always heard that cavern/cave IS technical diving. This came up at an NACD meeting awhile back when I suggested separating "recreational" cave diving from "technical" cave diving. I was roundly and soundly thrashed for entertaining the idea that any aspect of cavern/cave could be considered recreational.

I think the poll is not interested in such distinctions, rather simply wanting to know what tec training in addition to cave.

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I have deleted my own post- I got into a rant about recreational cave divers vs non-recreational cave divers, which had not much to do with "technical" as it is being discussed in this thread. Read on.



Jason

[imdown]

Did anybody else have trouble doing their "fin pivot" skill on trimix? hehe

[dogwatch]

The *only* tech course when I started was cavediver! It was cavedivers that developed all of today's "tech" courses. Mixed gas came into recreational diving through cavedivers.

same here