New Book about Cave Diving

Hello

I have the great pleasure to announce the publication of my book, "The Cave Diving", The Best way to enter in the fifth dimension. ("La Plongée Souterraine," Comment entrer dans la cinquième dimension)
I'm sorry, but the book in only available in French...!

This book is published by Editions Eugen Ulmer (http://www.editions-ulmer.fr/html/paraitre.php?=SID), in the same series as books of Jacques Vettier, Nitrox / Trimix and "Recycleurs".
The book will be available in beginning ofJanuary.

The book is both a state of the most widespread practices in France and in Europe, but also sharing experiences and anecdotes of cave divers .... !
It is primarily intended to "junior" or "young" caves divers, but it will probably attract some "old" cave divers.

It is the first cavediving manual in French. This book is not a reference, but just finding out what is happening to time, by some divers.

You will find news on the book and on different dates to mark its launch on a blog specially created for the occasion:

http://plongesouterraine.fr/WordPress/


At last, I'll be present on The French Dive Show of Paris at beginning of January...!

Best regards


pierre eric deseigne
http://www.bullesmaniacs.org

English Version?

I've been posting back and forth with the OPer. There isn't an English version, at least not yet. He's gonna see about getting the book sold here in the US.

Meanwhile, ya just GOT to check this out:
http://www.photo-sub.com/files/image...g6.preview.jpg

The OPer is checking for me on shipping to the US. The poster is only 10 euros. If we work it out, does anyone want to go in with me on shipping? We can get several over here--Florida?--for pick up.

What would 10 euros + shipping come out to be?

i will. let me know where to send you the $$

Hey Squirrel Girl.

That's a great pic. Can we get a caption and a photo credit?
Also, The first book I read on cave diving was "The Cave Divers" by Robert Burgess soon followed by "Caverns Measureless to Man" by Sheck. Both were very inspirational to me and since I'm a reader I'm always looking for the next book to stoke my imagination. Congrats on the new book but I don't read French.............but, I do kiss that way. :bart2

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Originally Posted by Squirrel Girl

The OPer is checking for me on shipping to the US. The poster is only 10 euros. If we work it out, does anyone want to go in with me on shipping? We can get several over here--Florida?--for pick up.

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Let me know what the total cost would be. Might be interested.

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Originally Posted by chimie007

Let me know what the total cost would be. Might be interested.

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I'd be in as well....

Volunteer Raphael as a translator while your at it... He speaks fluent Canadian... :)

Please let me know when the book is available in English (or dutch :yawinkle:).

I'm very interested, specially when the nice french caves are involved, only my French is :smt013

Here's what Pierre posted on the NSS's Cavechat (which I think I can legitimately cross post, as an administrator there, and knowing we're all just part of one big family). Click on the link he gave at the bottom.

At time, I'm very buzy with the french publication.
I'll try to translate the book in english and in second hand to found an editor for USA and other countries. But it'ld be another story...!

I have not yet contact Amercian vendors, but I'll try in a couple of days.

For the pictures, yes, I've try to found really beautifull pictures of the caves and of the sumps...!
A good friend have made many pictures, you can take a look on his web site :
http://www.photo-sub.com/


He then wrote

yes, this picture is incredible. This is the big shaft of the Ressel spring in Lot (France)....!
Rick Stanton and Jason Malisson and later the team of Markus Schafeulte have push big dives in this spring.

But Sebastien, the autor of the picture and a good friend, use a very special technical. It's not a one shot picture.
He realise thousand pictures, alone and he moves in the cave with the light.
After, he works with "Photoshop" and with several pictures, he've made one picture.

But, it's a very good way to show the beauty of the caves.
You can found the complete description and history of his picture on his website at :
http://www.photo-sub.com/ressel_photo_en

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Forrest, I typed in 10 euros into an on line currency converter a day or two ago and it came out as $12.80. Not bad! But instead of having, say, 10 people in the US pay for the shipping, getting it to the US in one big batch, then we can distribute here. Either leave them at Cathy's or even mailing them domestically wouldn't be so bad. It's an option, I think.

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Originally Posted by dvdwoude

Please let me know when the book is available in English (or dutch :yawinkle:).

I'm very interested, specially when the nice french caves are involved, only my French is :smt013

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You may find it easier to order directly yourself so near to France. I can't read the French to find out how to order, but there's always "Freetranslation.com" to help.

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Originally Posted by Squirrel Girl

But Sebastien, the autor of the picture and a good friend, use a very special technical. It's not a one shot picture.
He realise thousand pictures, alone and he moves in the cave with the light.
After, he works with "Photoshop" and with several pictures, he've made one picture.

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Hmmm, I thought so....that is a TAG pit, with a diver photoshopped in :twisted:

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Originally Posted by FW

Hmmm, I thought so....that is a TAG pit, with a diver photoshopped in :twisted:

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I think it's better explained as a series of images taken of the same scene, with each image having only a portion of the scene with the correct exposure. Hand-held lights are used to illuminate those sections of the scene which come out properly exposed. A composite of the scene is generated in, say Photoshop, by layering the separate images and selecting only those portions that are illuminated and hence properly exposed. Or something like that. A diver probably appears in every image, but is only properly exposed in the one where he himself is illuminated. I think Jill Heinerth and Curt Bowen, among others, use similar techniques.

Those of you with UW cameras and tripods can try this at home, perhaps by only taking a few shots and loading them into Photomatix: http://www.hdrsoft.com/

Dave

I was looking at the photo albums on the photo-sub site this morning. Wow are there some really nice shots. Making me miss cave diving in France.

Cheers!!

Kevin

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Originally Posted by loquat149

I think Jill Heinerth and Curt Bowen, among others, use similar techniques.

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Benjy von Cramon has done a fair bit of this with TAG pits.

If You do place an order i would like to join in on it
Michael Angelo

To all of you expressing interest... I'll post back as soon as I hear the details about buying a bunch and the cost of shipping for them.

Hi

first at all, I'm very happy to read all your messages. It's a real pleasure to me...!
And second at all, I'ld thank you all, to the interest you 're showing to my book and to the pictures of my friend Sebastien.

Don't worry, it'ld be an easy job to him, to sent the posters to Florida or to another states...!

And you're right, french caves are really beautiful, not all, but so many of them...! Some springs and some caves should be certainly in the top ten of the most beautiful caves of the world...!
If one day, some of you'ld come in France, it'ld be a great pleasure to me and a great honour to help you to discover the french springs...!

I hope your 'ld be comprehensive with my poor english. I'm better to dive than to speak and to write a fluent english...!


Best regards.

pierre eric deseigne

Pierre,
Your English is much better than my French. Welcome to the forum. Congratulations on your book!

Shirley

The pics are outstanding! I didn't know they had cave s like that in France. I gotta go.

Hi

yes, the France is a "little paradise" to cave and to cave diving. We have all sorts of caves, springs, with one sump or with several sumps, deep or not, with easy access or not, etc...!

The main areas are

- in south/west of France : Dordogne and Lot.
- in south : Herault/ Gard
- in middle east : Jura/Doubs/Ain.
(mountains area, with very cold watters and with the most part of time a very poor visibility)
- in south east : Var/Alpes Maritimes
- in the Rhone vallée : Ardèche and Drôme

Some other places are also very interseting :
- in the north center : Cote d'Or
- in the south center : Charente

The two main mountains area, Pyrénées en Alpes are also full of sumps, but generaly with a very hard access, and generaly deep and far in the caves.

And at least some places like Haute Marne, Meuse, Indre.


We have some very deep spring like :
Fontaine de Vaucluse, 315 meters and dive around 250 m
Goul de la Tannerie (Ardèche) dive to 220 m
etc, etc...
More than 40 springs 'd been dived with some depths between 100 and 200 meters...!
And certainly around hundred cave'd been dived with some depths between 60 and 100 meters...!

We have also very long sumps or very long multi sumps srpings.
By exemple, la Doux de Colly is 5900 metres long, with one sump and wih some passages with 80 meters deep...!
Or the "Bestouan" is 3000 meters long....

Some 40 sumps 've a length between 1000 and 2000 meters...!

You can found some full informations on this web site (in french...) : http://www.plongeesout.com/

and after you've to go on "Sites de Plongée" on the left side.
You'll have the map of the France with all the areas.
After in each area you'll have the caves and thes sumps, with pictures, survey, etc...!

And you can take a look at this web site with some nice pictures of french sumps :

http://r.huttler.free.fr/

And at least you can take a look on the web site of J Meynie, a fench deep cave diver, with an english version... :

http://snoopyloop.com/


After that you'ld have a little idea of the French cave diving...!

Best regards.

pierre eric deseigne
http://www.bullesmaniacs.org

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http://snoopyloop.com/

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http://www.deepcaves.net/smilies/roflguy.gif

I should create a poll to find out how many people know what snoopy loops are!
http://www.deepcaves.net/smilies/laughing.gif

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Originally Posted by Squirrel Girl

http://www.deepcaves.net/smilies/roflguy.gif

I should create a poll to find out how many people know what snoopy loops are!
http://www.deepcaves.net/smilies/laughing.gif

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Cindy knows, and I know. I am sure a few other CDG members hang out here :-)

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Originally Posted by FW

Cindy knows, and I know. I am sure a few other CDG members hang out here :-)

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I googled. There's a Wikipedia page on them!

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Originally Posted by Squirrel Girl

I've been posting back and forth with the OPer. There isn't an English version, at least not yet. He's gonna see about getting the book sold here in the US.

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Hey Barbara,
^_^
how are ya-? what I find interesting in this photo are the iniatials 'KKE' smudged into the face of the boulder{bottom_center...>right}near the floor of this cave....ck it out-!
Take care & Have a happy Thanksgiving too.
w\love
je