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As far as purposeful damage to the caves divers policing divers was suggested as the only real method.
One person suggested setting up a hotline (maybe NACD or NSSCDS ) you could call and make a complaint about a divers behavior/skills.
I assume there is no such number to call now?
Gary,
I am not aware of a specific phone number but there are e-mail addresses for the conversation committee chairs of both the CDS and NCAD on their respective websites.
You could always put up a sign at the steps or cave entrance that states:
"REPORT CAVE VANDALISM - GET A REWARD - [email protected]"
Or something to that nature
If you see someone vandalizing the cave call 911 or report it to the Park staff. The Florida statute is there for this exact purpose. Calling a hotline and reporting that "x" vandalized a cave could never result in a successful prosecution. /Ken
The hotline number can be the Park Ranger / staff #.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Hill
I don't have Janet's number at peacock, so how would I get a hold of her if she is somewhere else on the property??
Keep this in your kit...
http://www.srsport.com/images/products/SRHS.jpg
When you see the damage being done, as soon as you exit the cave, give this thing a good 3 second pulse 3 times and I bet you'll have all sorts of attention / rangers come your way... That way you could definitely get the perp's attention along with making the report.
Otherwise, it must not be that important to you, if you need an anonymous hotline to call.
That's my $.02
Noone said it had to be anonymous, but I do like the Air horn... Will it work underwater :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by defunct
Maybe there is a model with an inflator hose adaptor ... to cool /KQuote:
Originally Posted by defunct
Unfortunately you could tell Richard the ranger,but he would call law enforcement,which will take awhile to respond. I have written down tag number and vehicle description to turn into the proper official. A hot line number for information on cave vandalism has been publicized,it is the CDS# at 352-625-7192Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Edmonston
Hey, great!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelly Jessop
So "To report cave vandalism call 911 or the CDS hot line number at 352-625-7192".
What a great idea!
Personally, until Ken and Kelly said this it wouldn't have occured to me to cal either. I'd have probably gone looking for the ranger and accomplished nothing.
Now if we can just get a few signs made up and placed at a few cave sites we'd really be getting somewhere.
:D
So I dive ion a system and afterwards, I get called out that I damaged the system intentionally.....................Prove it!
This will only be a matter of 'he said, she said'. With a little malice, one could also 'set up' others.......
Be careful with the 'reporting' matters, it turns nasty quickly and the outcome may be far worse than the intentions. Feuds come to mind.
No worries... Someone will just follow every cavediver around with a video camera while you dive... It's just part of protecting the caves, so you shouldn't mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by MengTze
Next they will have a "cave log" where you have to sign in and sign out at the sites so that tracking will be accounted for...
of course this is only valid at the "popular" caves... because river caves, sneak dives, and others won't have those things... Think of all the undocumented dives being done!! The horror!
It'll just look like you are farting. :?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Edmonston
Then again, maybe it could be used as another spare air. :lol:
I only fart in my drysuit, Warmer than Argon :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by aw
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Originally Posted by Mike Edmonston
Cheaper, too.
Mike
tuut, toot, tuut, teet, toot............ring, ring.....
'Hello? Yes, I just saw a video of Ainslie banging his tanks or reflectors in a cave and I would like to report him for cave damage......He went in on purpose, so the damage could be construed as purposefully?'
CLICK
'Hello? Hello?'
Holy crap...Quote:
Originally Posted by MengTze
I just about spit out my coffee on the monitor...
That is some really funny Shiznit :-D :-D
I take a lot of crap for posting video. Still, I also get quite a few positive comments. It's certainly made me more aware - some of those videos were when I only had 20 or 30 cave dives, hopefully my technique is imnproving. My friends are also getting on my back about careful editing, since having your errors immortalized isn't all that fun. I now get their approval before posting.
Freddy, you're DEFINITELY not getting any cash from me! :)
If you are an eye witness to some one defacing the cave in any state park you should report it to the park employee on duty in the park that day, we can write an incident report on it and they go on record with the state, we turn the report into park management and they turn it over to Tallahassee. I've written a few incident reports on information given by eye witnesses, you can also call the hotline with the information.
Janet
for the record, I enjoy the videos. I don't like the internet divers who comment on the videos with great insight when there is no one to see them dive.... :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by aainslie
Yeah no kidding, everyone's a critic. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by MengTze