Another scooter on eBay

I just sent the following message to the eBay security people.
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I think item 120139489379 is bogus, and the latest in a series of attempts to "sell" items the seller doesn't have. The ad is very similar to the one I reported a couple of weeks ago.

I am pretty sure this is a hijacked account.

This is the 4th item like this in the last few months. Always "new" or "slightly used" underwater scooters by the same manufacturer (Sumerge). He always has a picture of the scooter on part of the factory crate, but if I ask to come look at the item, he disappears, or says it is in a different state.


http://cavediver.net/temp/scooterebay.JPG

Ebay should watermark all images uploaded with the ebay ID on it. Thus images can not be stolen from one auction to use in a fraud auction.

Other then that, there is not much they can do but to have users contact them on frauds.

Not to switch topics but I had the similar issue several months ago with ebay sellers hot linking images of new product from my site to sell their used items on ebay. Basically they were stealing my bandwidth. The answer was simple enough. I wrote a code so that if the page requesting an image from my server was ebay it only gave one image no matter what image they were asking for. Needless to say the image that is sent is not of scuba gear and and is rather counter productive to making a sale.

warning could be slightly offensive
image for ebay sellers

Back on topic. . .
Has anybody seen ebay remove any of these scooters after a complaint was made? I've personally made several complaints on sellers that offer items with a sightly higher than normal flat shipping cost but offer the item for one cent or something really low. Every single time the cost gets bumped up to the same minimal level right before the bidding ends and its always by bidders with no buying history. Personally I have never seen ebay take action against these scammers.

eBay pulled the last one I complained about :-)

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Originally Posted by Gibby

Not to switch topics but I had the similar issue several months ago with ebay sellers hot linking images of new product from my site to sell their used items on ebay. Basically they were stealing my bandwidth. The answer was simple enough. I wrote a code so that if the page requesting an image from my server was ebay it only gave one image no matter what image they were asking for. Needless to say the image that is sent is not of scuba gear and and is rather counter productive to making a sale.

warning could be slightly offensive
image for ebay sellers

Back on topic. . .
Has anybody seen ebay remove any of these scooters after a complaint was made? I've personally made several complaints on sellers that offer items with a sightly higher than normal flat shipping cost but offer the item for one cent or something really low. Every single time the cost gets bumped up to the same minimal level right before the bidding ends and its always by bidders with no buying history. Personally I have never seen ebay take action against these scammers.

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Ugh. I guess I don't understand gay men. I don't see the appeal. Doesn't ring any heterosexual female bells.

This same guy has an Inspiration rebreather for sale, and it looks just as fishy as the scooter. I may bid high on both of them. If I am wrong, I may get banned from eBay :-)

Well, I just "bought" both the scooter, and the rebreather.

What are the chances that anyone would have a "demo" UV18 for sale on eBay? Anyway, if I am wrong, I can always sell them in the Gear Exchange forum :roll:

what was the closing price?

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Originally Posted by billyf

what was the closing price?

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$3150 for the scooter 4750 for the rebreather.

I got an invoice, it looks like he "stole" an identity. I am going to wait for eBay to answer my complaint.

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Originally Posted by Gibby

warning could be slightly offensive
image for ebay sellers

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Is that moisture-wicking underwear??

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Originally Posted by Gibby

Personally I have never seen ebay take action against these scammers.

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not a scooter but ebay has pulled a few auctions after I already won the auction and paid.

For me the 2 times it happened I received my item.
for my mother the 1 time it happened she didnt get the item.

ebay claims to offer protection and they bought out paypal and claim the same protection but their magical protection is gone when they yank the auction. ebay is just as bad as the scammers they know the auction is a fraud but they wait til its over a few day cancel the auction after you paid and collect their 8 percent for a paypal transaction.

when I emailed asking for my protection they offer they refuse to honor it due to the fact that they closed the auction after it was over.

Well, eBay has yet to get back to me, but the seller called, and is irate that I thought he was a scammer. He said he works for a legitimate dive shop in NJ, and is "madder than a wet hen" that I messed up his auction. :oops:

I will probably never deal with eBay again. It was once a good thing, but unless they aggressively go after scammers, fairly soon nobody will trust them.

Well so when is the scooter going up for sale and how much do you want? :-D Did you introduce him to CDF and Thedecostop and tell him that Ebay is a really bad place to sell a SS scooter and he might get a better response fron Tech sites. His fault for not knowing the problem with ebay and scooters/rebreathers.

Look on the bright side. You got good deals on both the scooter and breather. Enjoy your new toys. - Kirk

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Originally Posted by FW

that I messed up his auction.

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How did you mess up his auction?

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Originally Posted by Slüdge

How did you mess up his auction?

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He *thinks* that if I hadn't bid the "buy it now" price 10 minutes before the auction closed, that he could have gotten his reserve price :-D :roll:

What is he talking about if he had a buy it now That is his reserve price.
Was this guy an eBay newbie. sounds like you got a scooter at a good price. How about the rebreather?

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Originally Posted by FW

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Originally Posted by Slüdge

How did you mess up his auction?

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He *thinks* that if I hadn't bid the "buy it now" price 10 minutes before the auction closed, that he could have gotten his reserve price :-D :roll:

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Last I checked it is a contract, whether you use buy it now or a regular bid, so HE is bound by it (and you as well...). If he did not read the fine print he's the fool (or tool?).
So, when are you posting the scooter for sale? :D

Dive safe,

Celia