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Any word on whether scootering will be allowed? I assume Solo diving is history and banker's hours will be instated :?
I was sad to hear this at first but after my last visit (on a Saturday) I decided that the only way to clean up the park and make it something other than a weekend spot for underaged punk thugs to get drunk, do drugs, pick fights, and act like a bunch of rutting Baboons is for this to become a State Park. I like a good party as much as the next guy but not at the annoyance, expense and safety of other people.
Same with Telford. If it becoming a State Park is the only thing that can protect the resource from damaging influences then I reluctantly accept the additional restrictions and rules.
Just build the Ranger station on stilts for gosh sakes.
Don't know about scootering since the unit management plan is being written. Scootering outside the cave diving community has gotten a bad rap,and it is felt that it is a cause of cave damage. Whether this is true or not,but we (the cave diving community) haven't done much to correct this image.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daedalus
Currently when we access Telford we are trespassing,I don't know of any right to dive there that has been granted. In this situation the diving can end in a moments notice. At least as a state park there would be recreational access,and something would be done to correct the terrible erosion that is occuring around the spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caveranger
Are cave divers getting the opportunity to provide input and comment on the management plan? If so, how?
Well, Manatee Springs State Park permits scootering, so that could be a model for allowing scootering at the future Little River State Park. Is there anyone we can contact with our concerns about the unit management plan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelly Jessop
As from a newbie perspective , I am looking forward to Little River State Park !
But of course , I don't scooter yet so...I am still of the swimming clan.
I look forward to it. Just my humble opinion of course.
Thanks for the info btw... :-D
Jeano Beano
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Originally Posted by Daedalus
I would hope that they follow Manatee's example, minus the floating "maximum diver" limit.
If not...
The river is open 24/7 and has no rules.
I hate to be the one to tell you, but Suwanee county declared the run *not* to be a "navigable" water way, and I suspect the state will agree with them. I don't think swimming up the run would be a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tegg
It may as well become a State Park. It lost all of it's charm when they paved paradise.
Cave diving is not supposed to be like Disney World or chain restaurants.
I used to love showing up at sunrise on Sunday's with a nice cup of coffee.
No one around, watch the sunrise at one of the prettiest spots in the country, sip coffee, take my time gearing up, go on a nice relaxing dive in a beautiful system.
Oh and you get to check out what interesting artifacts the locals left from partying the night before. Sort of like CSI, trying to piece together the events from the evening based upon the AM evidence. :-D
I for one, am pleased that it will become a state park. I hope Telford does some day too.
I don't mind paying a fee one bit if it culls the negative traffic. LR use to be one of the places you had to think twice about, unless you got out of the water before school let out.
I do admit that paving the area around the run didn't thrill me.
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to convey...Quote:
Originally Posted by FW
Little River is not the only cave on the river... :wink:
True, and not the only river in the area :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tegg
Thanks for the info Kelly ( Skip & I met you at Little River yesterday, Sunday)
Skip & I discussed this after our dive there yesterday, I know that with change, some things are better, some worse, but all in all I like Fla.'s state park system.
We buy a pass every year & it pays for itself many times over, the place is cleaned up & you feel a heck of a lot safer.
We hit Telford after Little River on Sunday hoping the Swamp Monkeys would be hung over & not bother us, which was pretty much the case, we had a great dive with no problems & the place was actually fairly clean for a change.
I don't use a DPV at at this time, but plan on one in the future, so would also hate for the state to take away that privilege.
Mike M
You know I remember the old Little River very well,and I really miss the trees that at least made the 100 degree temperature a little more bearable when suiting up. But,the more I see the erosional problems occuring at Telford,the more accepting of the "paved paradise" I am. The running joke was where did you risk your life,on the trench or the dilapidated stairs,because cave diving was safe compared to these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay
It was good to meet you Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike
I agree,nobody likes change,but some change is inevitable. I think back 10 years ago and I'd drive down 252,51,47 etc and see the occasional farm house,now I see subdivisions. At least with a spring becoming a state park it will still retain recreational access,that is something you couldn't guarantee with a developer who is intent on "Little River Gated Community".
I agree with you about the trees. But what gets me is that when they designed the parking lot, they either forgot about cave divers with trailers, or just don't want us to bring them. There are no places for a truck and trailer. And the concrete bumpers prevent you from pulling through to use two spaces.
Who remembers when the steps collapsed (I believe in 1996) and you had to negotiate the cliff with doubles on?